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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
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    Why is it one of the best tools? Because ESPN uses it?
    well, mostly because other advanced stats aren't very advanced yet. We're in the infancy stage right now. At least publicly. I've worked for 2 NBA teams and they have a ton of stuff they measure in their "box" scores, crazy stuff, which can then be used in more complicated formulas. PER is good for coming up with 1 number to represent the info. we have recored in a box score. I like other stats as well, I wouldn't say PER is THE best. It's just a tool i use alongside other things. Just saying its not garbage bro. We all know the faults in Big Al's game. But he has strengths too, ya know? Teams have/are paying him millions every year for a reason. And PER reflects that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
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    PER is good for coming up with 1 number to represent the info.
    What makes it "good"? How is it any better than points+rebounds+assists? Is that measure also "good"?

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    We all know the faults in Big Al's game. But he has strengths too, ya know?
    What does this have to do with anything?
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    okay time to get back on topic:
    whether per +/- etc are junk or not.
    big al is junk.
    he has a terrible on court attitude.
    and does not try to play defense.
    and is a black hole
    the experiment needs to end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
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    What makes it "good"? How is it any better than points+rebounds+assists? Is that measure also "good"?

    What does this have to do with anything?
    "good" is relative. PER is "good"er than pts+rbds+assts because it takes into account more information.
    all im saying is PER isn't junk. dunno why anyone would be stuck on saying it's "junk." No stat is perfect, including PER. Like I said, it's a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchJazzer View Post
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    okay time to get back on topic:
    whether per +/- etc are junk or not.
    big al is junk.
    he has a terrible on court attitude.
    and does not try to play defense.
    and is a black hole
    the experiment needs to end.


    gtfo. you wished big al would get injured. thats junk. **** you bro.
    everyone neg this man. black hole? nice racialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
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    "good" is relative. PER is "good"er than pts+rbds+assts because it takes into account more information.
    all im saying is PER isn't junk. dunno why anyone would be stuck on saying it's "junk." No stat is perfect, including PER. Like I said, it's a tool.
    In other words, PER is "good" because.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
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    In other words, PER is "good" because.
    You can obviously cite Hollinger's rebuttal to WoW just as you know WoW has its detractors and limitations as well. PER, like WoW, is not a perfect metric, and the math wars will continue. But dismissing PER as "junk" is a little over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchJazzer View Post
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    okay time to get back on topic:
    whether per +/- etc are junk or not.
    big al is junk.
    he has a terrible on court attitude.
    and does not try to play defense.
    and is a black hole
    the experiment needs to end.
    So apparently Andrew Bynum, and DeMarcus Cousins would also fit your mold.
    Apparently the league should give up on all three big men :-)
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    Big-Al isnīt so bad on the defensive half, if you are a NBA Player yourself, you didnīt want to go through a paint, which is protected by a 289 lb BIG-MAN like BIG-AL.
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    Al is soft ? he is just a nice guy. Sometimes he avoids contact, just to protect other players from his strength. He is a player, who cares for other players. Trust me dude, they say BIG-AL breaks the neck of a bull, just with his pure hands.
    Why they call him BIG-AL, think of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilencer1313 View Post
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    So apparently Andrew Bynum, and DeMarcus Cousins would also fit your mold.
    Apparently the league should give up on all three big men :-)
    i dont care about other teams.

    i care about jazz baskettball.
    and having al as a leader is not jazz basketball

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