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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
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    Answer the question, pansy.

    You think Americans should be paying higher in gas prices.

    Do you believe Americans should be paying higher in healthcare costs too?
    the fact that you are ready to (1) reduce health care and care giving to a commodity right out of the gate, and (2) equate that commodity with oil -- especially foreign oil -- is just too over-the-top laughable.

    You aren't asking a sensible question. Your logic mirrors the following question: 'do you prefer the color orange or toilet? answer teh ****ing question!!!1!1!!!'
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
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    the fact that you are ready to (1) reduce health care and care giving to a commodity right out of the gate, and (2) equate that commodity with oil -- especially foreign oil -- is just too over-the-top laughable.

    You aren't asking a sensible question. Your logic mirrors the following question: 'do you prefer the color orange or toilet? answer teh ****ing question!!!1!1!!!'
    I never compared the two, nor did I ask you to prefer one or the other.

    I just simply asked if you think we should pay higher for healthcare costs.

    Fairly simple question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
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    I never compared the two, nor did I ask you to prefer one or the other.

    I just simply asked if you think we should pay higher for healthcare costs.

    Fairly simple question.
    So after we say no are you going to jump on us and ask how we could support Obama as President?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
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    I never compared the two, nor did I ask you to prefer one or the other.

    I just simply asked if you think we should pay higher for healthcare costs.

    Fairly simple question.
    the way you ask/contextualize a question is important. Go back and look at your own words.

    Do I think Americans should pay more health care costs? **** no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilencer1313 View Post
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    ... as oil wells have been proven to be replenishing themselves naturally.
    You can't possibly mean what you just said. Did you phrase it badly, or do you really think that oil replenishes itself in the ground?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameface View Post
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    So after we say no are you going to jump on us and ask how we could support Obama as President?
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    the way you ask/contextualize a question is important. Go back and look at your own words.

    Do I think Americans should pay more health care costs? **** no.

    I will not try and jump on you. But how am I suppose to support a President that created the "Affordable Healthcare Act"(WORST NAME EVER!) that has increased healthcare costs in a record amount? We are now basically talking about a family of 4 where their healthcare costs are equal or exceding the cost of housing for that same family.


    When you combine the heathcare costs, costs of gasoline, mixed with unemployment and the economy its made it so much harder for a family to get by month to month. How can you support a President that in the last four years has made it harder for families to pay there bills every month? Seriously take politics away for a split second and help me understand.

    The sad part is Obama created an America where providing for your family has become harder while at the same time adding record amounts of debt to the defecit.

    I'm not saying anything that isn't untrue, but please help convince me to be optimisitic. Show me the hope that you see for the next four years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown View Post
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    Its not doom and gloom.
    Stopped reading there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
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    You can't possibly mean what you just said. Did you phrase it badly, or do you really think that oil replenishes itself in the ground?
    Oh boy, get ready to go down a particularly weird rabbit hole.

    I suspect he's talking about this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abioge...troleum_origin

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
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    well then lets frack the **** out of southern Utah, eh? Most energy sources on American soil require much more capital investment for much less yield.

    It's a simple fact: we need to get off oil. Put a $1 per gallon tax on it, and throw that all into alternative energy. Then thank me later.
    Lol, you do realise who you are talking to right? I have repeatedly said we need ot be off oil and have offered several ideas to get the ball rolling. Geothermal, nuclear, CNG, solar wind, hydrogen fuel cells...and how to help fund and further those forms of energy.

    So you might be better off directing you arguement at those it applies to.

    Having said all that I'd prefer US oil to foreign oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
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    Lol, you do realise who you are talking to right? I have repeatedly said we need ot be off oil and have offered several ideas to get the ball rolling. Geothermal, nuclear, CNG, solar wind, hydrogen fuel cells...and how to help fund and further those forms of energy.

    So you might be better off directing you arguement at those it applies to.

    Having said all that I'd prefer US oil to foreign oil.
    In a perfect world or vacuum, sure. I think the debate for the common man here is what the environmental (essentially) cost is. Some care, some don't. I do, FWIW.
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