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    Quote Originally Posted by candrew View Post
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    Stats also don't lie about the fact that players that are active in the paint tend to get fouled more. You don't always get fouled in the act of shooting - you get foul going for loose balls, you get fouled on put backs, you get fouled being aggressive. Karl Malone was basically a mid range jump shooter the last 4 years of his career and he spent plenty of time on the line.

    Which leads me to my next point - pump fakes. Al Jefferson pump fakes so god damn much that he's turned it into a useless exercise. NOBODY bites on his pump fakes anymore. The fact that he's never fouled is a testament to that. Almost every single ****ing shot that he takes leads with wasted movement - even if he's wide open. And the few times he gets the defender out of position, he uses that opportunity to weave around him, instead of taking it hard to the basket.

    I don't know if he's always been this way or if he just started playing like this after he blew his ACL. But when you're on the road and you're playing from behind, you need opportunities to score with the clock stopped. Big Al is a "go-to" guy who doesn't give you that opportunity. That's a problem.
    It was a sarcasm candrew. We`re at the same page.

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    https://www.basketball-reference.com.../okurme01.html
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    Something haunting....

    Memo's rookie year he matched the avg of FT attempts that Big Al is attempting... His rookie year...

    Memo... Known for his outside shot and not post up game routinely averaged between 3-5 FTs per game as a Jazz player. In fact, in 4 years he averaged nearly 5 FTs per game as a Jazz.

    In just his second year in the Jazz's offense shot over twice as many FTs as Al Jefferson did in his second year in the Jazz's offense. This is freaking Memo for crying out loud.

    Compare that to Al, who has never averaged more than 3.5 with the Jazz and has been going steadily down ever since.

    Folks.

    Al Jefferson is on pace to shoot about as many FTs as Nick Collison.

    That's great. If Al Jefferson were played 10 mins and never ever ever had a play run for him like Collison.

    This is our #1 option. Our #1 post guy. And he's playing ahead of Favors and Kanter....


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    Jefferson's lack of free throw has a lot to do with reputation. His offense is built on avoiding contact and a soft touch, so even when he is fouled he has reputation of being a post player that is constantly moving to avoid contact rather than embracing it. Jefferson's game is modeled after McHale. How many times did McHale get to the line compared to Malone?

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    You just noticed his lack of FTA's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey32 View Post
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    Jefferson's lack of free throw has a lot to do with reputation. His offense is built on avoiding contact and a soft touch, so even when he is fouled he has reputation of being a post player that is constantly moving to avoid contact rather than embracing it. Jefferson's game is modeled after McHale. How many times did McHale get to the line compared to Malone?
    Career FGA/FTA

    Malone: 1.987
    McHale: 2.708
    Jefferson: 3.901


    Career FG%

    Malone: .516
    McHale: .554
    Jefferson: .500


    Career TS%
    Malone: .577
    McHale: .605
    Jefferson: .531


    Malone and McHale also happened to be competent team players and defenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey32 View Post
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    Jefferson's lack of free throw has a lot to do with reputation. His offense is built on avoiding contact and a soft touch, so even when he is fouled he has reputation of being a post player that is constantly moving to avoid contact rather than embracing it. Jefferson's game is modeled after McHale. How many times did McHale get to the line compared to Malone?
    Besides GVC taking the issue to school, let's apply Occam's Razor here and call a spade a spade; Slow Al is a gigantic bitch.

    Bless his heart.
    "Adversity is opportunity in disguise."

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    Dfavors in just the last 3 games has matched Big Al's total FT production for the entire year...
    Get Educated

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thriller View Post
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    Dfavors in just the last 3 games has matched Big Al's total FT production for the entire year...
    in 80 less minutes! (has jefferson EVER had 14 fta in 1 game?)

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    Al should have shot a lot of free throws this game, Garnett was molesting him the whole game.

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