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    Could ex-Jazzers beat our current team?

    Could ex-Jazzers beat our current team? And what does that say about management?

    Picture this starting lineup:

    DWill, Matthews, AK, Boozer, Koufos

    Maynor, RB, Korver, CJ, KHump as reserves

    RPrice, Fes

    Revise this a little to what we could have had: Keep Millsap after trading Boozer, trading CJ or RB (probably CJ), drafting or signing a defensive Center, PG (releasing RPrice), and another 3-point shooter -- and we have a team that could be contending rather than what we do have.

    This might be more in the realm of fantasy because salary implications are not figured in. But it kind of shows how things became screwed up when we let Matthews walk, leading to DWill disenchantment, Jerry being P-O'd -- both of those are facts -- and the tensions increasing between Jerry and DWill, and the team falling apart and needing to rebuild on the fly with a new coach. I believe it all started with letting Matthews walk. I wonder how things might've been different if Larry had been alive to make the decision whether or not to pay Matthews.

    This whole scenario has really eroded my interest in the Jazz because I was strongly against the move to let Matthews walk, against letting Maynor go, wanted to trade Boozer and promote Millsap early on -- maybe getting a new coach but not the second coming of Jerry. Imagine if we got D'Antoni and how that would've made DWill even better, because D'Antoni would've reinforced DWill's skills, allowed for a more freelance style that would've been good for AK, and provided us with a very exciting team. It's all pure fantasy now. I wonder though how it would've been if Larry had still been with us.

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    Huh? Didnt we pretty much have that lineup and didnt win it all? I like the way our future can look if we make a few more SMART choices. No thanks on the road we traveled already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpjazz View Post
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    Huh? Didnt we pretty much have that lineup and didnt win it all?
    Yes, but OP question was are we any better then that? Potential looks nice, but former Jazzmen would crush current team in playoffs series 4-0 or 4-1 at best.
    Learning begins when you do not know the answer.

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    Yes, but teams get better by playing together for a stretch of time -- like the Spurs. You just add complementary pieces. If we had traded Boozer and slid Millsap in his place and made some shrewd complementary moves, we would've had a better team than the one that went to Conference finals.

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    That team's locked into mediocrity far more than the current Jazz team. Whether they'd beat the current Jazz roster is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eenie-Meenie View Post
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    Yes, but teams get better by playing together for a stretch of time -- like the Spurs.
    Prime Duncan-Manu-Parker(-Robinson) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DWill-Boozer-AK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpjazz View Post
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    Huh? Didnt we pretty much have that lineup and didnt win it all? I like the way our future can look if we make a few more SMART choices. No thanks on the road we traveled already.
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    I will take our current roster with all of the excitement, hope, anticipation and potential that they bring...... now if they could just get lots of playing time.

    I was at the game last night and saw a lineup with hayward, burks, kanter, and favors all on the court at the same time, and i was so excited and happy in that moment. I think it was the first time they were all the court together (at least that i can remember)

    If we ever get to a point when all 4 of them plus a good young point guard are all starting together (maybe next year) then i dont think anything in the last 15 years of my jazz fandom could top that.

    i liked memo, dwill, AK, and boozer core quite a bit.... but compared to my excitement for our young core it is not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
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    That team's locked into mediocrity far more than the current Jazz team. Whether they'd beat the current Jazz roster is irrelevant.
    Exactly this...who cares if they could beat the current team? Could that team win it all? NO, I want a GOD DAMN ring someday...potential is better than knowing you wont win one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpjazz View Post
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    Exactly this...who cares if they could beat the current team? Could that team win it all? NO, I want a GOD DAMN ring someday...potential is better than knowing you wont win one..
    Yup.
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    And what the **** is a "Jazzer" anyway?
    "Adversity is opportunity in disguise."

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