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    If that Hayward guy could shoot he'd be really good.
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    [sarcasm]So another epic battle in the continuing struggle between Enes and Jonas. Valuncunas played an amazing 16 minutes, scoring 10 points and grabbing 1 rebound. He didn't miss a shot or ft.

    The triple overtime game allowed Enes to get some much needed playing time. He got to play 12 out of the possible 60 minutes, which was good for 9th most minutes on the team! Enes missed all of his fg attempts, and half his fts. He finished with one point and 3 rebounds.

    Clearly the two titans battled each other to another draw. Maybe next time we will learn who is the real big man of the 2011 draft, and the best young European big man in the NBA. /sarcasm]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Notes View Post
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    If that Hayward guy could shoot he'd be really good.
    Sí, estoy de acuerdo. Hayward sería un gran jugador si él era capaz de hacer más de sus intentos de gol de campo. Él sólo tiene que practicar más, y concentrarse. Me pregunto lo que lo mantiene distraído?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
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    Sí, estoy de acuerdo. Hayward sería un gran jugador si él era capaz de hacer más de sus intentos de gol de campo. Él sólo tiene que practicar más, y concentrarse. Me pregunto lo que lo mantiene distraído?
    Oye, demasiado grande!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
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    All posters who are bashing big AL and Millsap and are calling for their trades should rewatch this game and imagine Favors and Kanter finishing 4th quarter or those overtimes instead. We would have never won this. Young kids are not ready when it comes to gut our wins like this. Sure it would be exciting to see them ball but missing playoffs and being losing team would be not fun. So please, lets stop these ridiculous "trade big AL or Millsap" posts and enjoy what they bring to the table this year. Next year it will be time for youngsters to step up.
    How many times does big al give up easy looks because of his pathetic P&R defense?

    I understand that you're getting all excited from his offensive game. But what about his defensive game?

    Perhaps if Kanter and Favors started, this team wouldn't give up so many easy looks and wouldn't have to rely on miracle 3 point shooting from their bigs to win?
    Get Educated

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    Yeah, big AL is bad at pick and roll defense - we know that. But he compensates for it on the other end of the floor. Neither Favors nor Kanter has that ability to do it consistently and when game is on the line. Plus if you put Favors and Kanter as starters now they would foul out without playing in 4th quarter. It is not time yet to handle them reigns. They are not ready.
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    Much better substitutions at the end of the game for Corbin. I cant remember which OT it was (I think the end of 1st OT) he pulled PGs off the court put Jefferson on the person passing the ball in, then had Hayward, Marvin, Milsap and Favors guarding. He played Favors a lot more and pulled Jefferson at the end of 2nd OT when we needed a defensive stop, but Lucas makes a good shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
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    Yeah, big AL is bad at pick and roll defense - we know that. But he compensates for it on the other end of the floor. Neither Favors nor Kanter has that ability to do it consistently and when game is on the line. Plus if you put Favors and Kanter as starters now they would foul out without playing in 4th quarter. It is not time yet to handle them reigns. They are not ready.
    Yes, I think we can all agree that Al is better at scoring in the post than Kanter and Favors, but we can also all agree that a team with Jefferson starting at center will never accomplish anything in the playoffs. So when the idea is to win NBA titles what is the point of having him? Why not see what the young guys have to offer?
    Sure, you may think it may cost the Jazz a few regular season wins and maybe a shot at the playoffs (I personally believe it'd be addition by subtraction and they'd win the same amount of games or more), but the Jazz know where the ceiling is with Jefferson. It is not a very high ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LazyD View Post
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    Yes, I think we can all agree that Al is better at scoring in the post than Kanter and Favors, but we can also all agree that a team with Jefferson starting at center will never accomplish anything in the playoffs. So when the idea is to win NBA titles what is the point of having him? Why not see what the young guys have to offer?
    Sure, you may think it may cost the Jazz a few regular season wins and maybe a shot at the playoffs (I personally believe it'd be addition by subtraction and they'd win the same amount of games or more), but the Jazz know where the ceiling is with Jefferson. It is not a very high ceiling.
    Yes, we know what big AL's ceiling is - and that along with Millsap it should be enough to make playoffs. They both are in contract year - Corbin has no choice but to play them. He can't give major minutes to Favors and Kanter and risk losing his job. It would be different if nobody would expect Jazz to make playoffs, then hell yes, play youngsters and hope for nice draft pick. And it is just not realistic to expect that given major minutes in this season Favors and Kanter would result in same or close number of the wins for the Jazz, sorry, just not happening. We would lose about 30% more IMHO. We need patience.
    I sound like broken record but wait for next year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
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    Yes, we know what big AL's ceiling is - and that along with Millsap it should be enough to make playoffs. They both are in contract year - Corbin has no choice but to play them. He can't give major minutes to Favors and Kanter and risk losing his job. It would be different if nobody would expect Jazz to make playoffs, then hell yes, play youngsters and hope for nice draft pick. And it is just not realistic to expect that given major minutes in this season Favors and Kanter would result in same or close number of the wins for the Jazz, sorry, just not happening. We would lose about 30% more IMHO. We need patience.
    I sound like broken record but wait for next year!
    Agree to disagree on that point, but it's really irrelevant. No one knows for sure, nor will they find out, so either one of us can be right or wrong.
    I have accepted the fact that Jazz fans have to wait till next year. Can't wait!

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