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    Well, a win is a win. Great to see our guys plays no matter what.
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    Damn DVR didn't record the last OT, sigh. Glad they won. It stopped in the last 10 seconds of the 2nd OT and I honestly thought they had it by then.
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    In this game, Kanter didn't deserve anymore minutes. He looks like a completely different player on the road. However, it was nice to see Favors play big minutes. Yea offensively he might not be ready but defensively he is a BIG difference maker. Again the Big three (Millsap, Favors, Jefferson) is our best lineup. Kanter needs to get bigger minutes at home and has to earn minutes on the road for now. I would put Marvin Williams on the bench and tell him that we want you to be more aggressive offensively. With Foye and Marvin on the bench the Jazz will have more offense.

    The one thing that I have notice is that our guards look Kanter and Favors off a lot. They need to run a few plays for these guys and let them build their confidence. On the road it seems as thought our guys are falling in love with the 3 pt line and not utilizing our interior guys as much especially the young guys. Nice win last night!

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    Jefferson give up so many points in defense that at the end of the game we need him to shoot miraclous clutch 3s in order to beat pathetic teams like Toronto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
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    Yeah, big AL is bad at pick and roll defense - we know that. But he compensates for it on the other end of the floor. Neither Favors nor Kanter has that ability to do it consistently and when game is on the line. Plus if you put Favors and Kanter as starters now they would foul out without playing in 4th quarter. It is not time yet to handle them reigns. They are not ready.
    and they never will until they get the playing time, and are put in that situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sepanol View Post
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    Jefferson give up so many points in defense that at the end of the game we need him to shoot miraclous clutch 3s in order to beat pathetic teams like Toronto.
    he does that his all career, only that time he actually won

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
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    Yeah, big AL is bad at pick and roll defense - we know that. But he compensates for it on the other end of the floor. Neither Favors nor Kanter has that ability to do it consistently and when game is on the line. Plus if you put Favors and Kanter as starters now they would foul out without playing in 4th quarter. It is not time yet to handle them reigns. They are not ready.
    No. No he doesn't.

    He shoots an incredibly low percentage and shoots an insanely small amount of FTs.

    Nothing compensates for bad defense. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Didn't we learn this lesson from all those years with AK47, Boozer, Korver, and Memo? Especially when the offensive player just isn't a very good offensive player. Big Al will never be a part of a championship team unless he's riding the bench.
    Get Educated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncster View Post
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    Much better substitutions at the end of the game for Corbin. I cant remember which OT it was (I think the end of 1st OT) he pulled PGs off the court put Jefferson on the person passing the ball in, then had Hayward, Marvin, Milsap and Favors guarding. He played Favors a lot more and pulled Jefferson at the end of 2nd OT when we needed a defensive stop, but Lucas makes a good shot.
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    At some point you do have to give Toronto credit for playing well, the defense wasn't great but at the same time the Raptors hit some tough shots and played better then there numbers show so far this season. So it is nice that even though the Raptors played one of their best games of the season the Jazz still managed to win.

    Lots of hate as per the norm and lord knows everybody in my house hears me yelling similar things to the players and coaches at the TV, getting caught up in the moments and reactionary things. My biggest complaint of the night was the lack of rebounding and boxing out by every Jazz big man. However just wanted to say even with the players, teams and coaches faults still need to give credit.

    Corbin did change things up with rotations and line ups, even if it isn't exactly what some or a lot of people wanted it still was some change. Mo (maybe due to being a little hobbled) in the first half more so and some in the OT's looked to be distributing first and looking for his shot second. Anyway those are just 2 quick easy examples I thought but there was also more IMO.

    Don't expect them to win the next to games but hope for continued signs of growth and improvement.

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    Here is a fun stat for everyone.

    Bargnani was 5 of 7 being defended by anyone not named Favors. Bargnani being defended by Favors was 0-10 with only 2 fts.

    This makes me happy because I would say that Favors biggest defensive liability was guarding perimeter bigs. Bargnani is about as perimeter as you can get for a big.
    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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