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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
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    This thread depresses the **** out of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
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    They tried Al from the high post a bit in preseason, with action along the baselines, and he didn't respond well. Marvin's been cutting more than any Jazz wing did last season as well (although mostly along the baseline on the weak side when Al has the ball in the high post), but Al is slow to react. He didn't show a consistent ability to hit cutters under Jerry either. Last season Ty found a simple formula that minimizes risk and is fairly effective. It'd be nice if he gave the changes more time before giving up on them (let alone add some of the other wrinkles discussed in this thread), but the guard play is making that an inevitability at this point (chuck chuck chuck). He'll reel it in even more and go short-sighted by playing dump-it-in-to-Al ball pretty soon.
    I'm not seeing this. I've rarely seen Marvin cut. Al actually got the ball at the top of the key a fair amount tonight, but early in the clock, and his job was to watch the baseline cuts that never work.

    The general difference between Ty and Sloan teams is that once the ball goes into the post, there is no action off the ball. At all. Whatsoever. Boozer always had options even if he took a dumb fadeaway. Neither Paul nor Al ever have a cutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyshelby View Post
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    I'm not a hundred percent sure I'm following you. Our base offense (when we're not running PnR's), from what I see, starts with Mo at the top (or the 1). We run flex cuts with baseline crosses under the basket which get Al set and Mo usually passes off to the wing on his side. He then proceeds to run through the lane, pretends to set a screen, and pops back up on the arc opposite the post. Once the wing dumps to the post, which is often nearly at the top of the key, Al is stranded with the ball on the block. He's got one wing guy to pass to (sort of), and 3 other guys stationary on the other side of the key. So his only option is to score or pass out.
    That's basically it. It doesn't matter if the pass comes from the 1 or 2 really because floor spacing is identical -- Al on the post, passer sending the ball down way too North to South, and the other three guys spread across the opposite wing. Passer goes to the spot most easily and already guarded.

    Corbin can semi-fix this IMO by putting two guys on the strong side wing (option 1.a), cutting two players from strong wing at the same time (1.b) & in succession (1.c), & pushing Millsap down low (option 2). If Jefferson is getting doubled/trippled they might as well have a threat close to the basket.


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    I'm not seeing this. I've rarely seen Marvin cut. Al actually got the ball at the top of the key a fair amount tonight, but early in the clock, and his job was to watch the baseline cuts that never work.
    The second unit lead by Tinsley last night actually executed a continuously moving offense. I'm buying more into the starters refusing to run the system and selfishly looking out for themselves. Millsap is running lazy ass cuts and looks like he's all out refusing to set his man up hard before changing directions. Mo is a chucker plain and simple. Everyone else looks like a deer in the headlights when they get the ball. They have an urgency to do something with it a.s.a.p. rather than read the defense and let plays develop.

    Starters aren't running an offense & the second unit is. Just another piece to the puzzle of figuring out who exactly Tyrone Corbin is.


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