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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate505 View Post
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    1. Sure, why not, though IMO I don't think it is possible at all to have a secure border when the border is a thousand miles long across fairly rough and desolate terrain. But whatever, the anti-illegal immigration can have that bone if they want it.
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    Fixed.
    I let that slide as I didnt feel like arguing that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
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    No more anchor babies for babies born in the future

    I assume you don't mean it will be illegal for illegal immigrants to become pregnant. Can you be a little more precise? Do you mean these kids, born on American soil, won't be US citizens at all? Will they also be considered illegal immigrants? Would they have a path to citizenship?
    It is pretty clear already but I like you so one more time.

    In my proposal after all the other changes take affect an illegal immigrant comes to the US. They get preggo and have a kid. That baby would not be an American citizen. This change would apply to illegal immigrants only.

    If a person came to the US legally and had a baby here their baby would be a US citizen.
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    It is pretty clear already but I like you so one more time.

    In my proposal after all the other changes take affect an illegal immigrant comes to the US. They get preggo and have a kid. That baby would not be an American citizen. This change would apply to illegal immigrants only.

    If a person came to the US legally and had a baby here their baby would be a US citizen.
    Wait, I still don't understand. Are you saying people that come here illegally and use the free birth control and still get pregnant, that their child will or won't be a US citizen?

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    Wait, I still don't understand. Are you saying people that come here illegally and use the free birth control and still get pregnant, that their child will or won't be a US citizen?
    That is because you are un mongolo. Cheers!
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    OK, however you and One Brow still didn't answer the question. Would you take a deal that does all of the above?

    Seeing as you both have a problem with anchor babies. Is that a deal breaker for you?
    Yes. If Congress wants to go repeal the 14th Amendment then fine, but until then it's extremely unconstitutional.
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    That's as opposed to the gifts of the separate tax struture for capital gains taxes, the lowering of the top marginal tax rate, etc., which doesn't cater to any segment of society? I may have misread your tone, but to me it reeked of "those people want goodies instead of a responsible, fair government". Do you have enough self-reflection to see that both sides see themselves as wanting a responsible, fiar government, and both sides can paint the others as the ones demanding the goodies?
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    Not a fan of the amnesty bit but I would take the deal just to get **** done.

    Oh, and I agree with the thought that we should be throwing green cards to any and every well educated person on the planet; doctors, engineers, nurses, etc. That said, we can deport the lawyers and politicians.
    That's what Reagan did (compromised on amnesty) and the Democrat congress didn't keep up their end of the deal on securing the border.

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    In my proposal after all the other changes take affect an illegal immigrant comes to the US. They get preggo and have a kid. That baby would not be an American citizen. This change would apply to illegal immigrants only.
    What would the status of the baby be? Why does the citizenship of the baby matter to you?
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    What would the status of the baby be? Why does the citizenship of the baby matter to you?
    Illegal immigrant.

    In alot of cases these children end up on programs such as Medicaid. This is because the parents do not have social security numbers and are working under the table or under false SSNs and won't report that for various reasons.

    Stop the flow and reset so to speak. Then have harder enforcement for those that break the immigration laws afterwards(that includes businesses). Perhaps bill the nation they come from by means as deducting the airfare and cost of detention from foreign aid to whatever country they came from.
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