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    Gobert has a serious defensive gravity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin View Post
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    I know Burks gets a lot of hype for being able to get to the rim, but didn't he have an awful FG% around the rim his rookie season?
    65.2% at rim.....? https://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Alec%20Burks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jope View Post
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    Thing is... we all know burks is a GREAT finisher at the rim because we all saw him do it over and over again last year and basically anytime he has gotten playing time. Cyrone just like to cause trouble is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
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    Are you really this lazy?
    All signs point to yes. I don't really know what site shows shot charts. I just remember Locke saying it one time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jope View Post
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    I guess what I heard was him talking about 3-9 feet then.

    65% puts him around average for a wing player on the Jazz.
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    Thanks.... Always good to have some theme music for my rants!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishonjazz View Post
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    Thing is... we all know burks is a GREAT finisher at the rim because we all saw him do it over and over again last year and basically anytime he has gotten playing time. Cyrone just like to cause trouble is all.
    I wouldnt say a great finisher, I would say a great foul drawer. Did he have an abnormal amount of and 1's or something?

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    probably my #3 frustration in every game (after the static offense and the lack of help D from the bigs) is foye's absolutely laughable perimeter D. so i get that foye has his weaknesses.

    but foye finds ways to contribute. carroll, who has maybe a third the talent that burks has, finds ways to contribute. marvin and gordon find ways to contribute. if burks played with that mentality -- i don't know if i'll get shots but i know what i CAN do to make the team better tonight -- he'd be playing. corbin gave him a 4-game run in the rotation to prove he's ready, but a coach can't wait around 20 minutes for you to get into a groove. take memphis - he gets 7 valuable minutes in a winnable road game against a western playoff team, and he's so invisible (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0/2 shooting) that corbin COULDN'T go back to him in the second half. how long do you think corbin should have waited on him that night? 8 minutes? 10? 20? yet despite how bad he was that night, corbin still gave him MORE minutes in the next three games to give him a shot. the return on that investment: 7 points on 13 shots, and a guy who was either going head-down into a sea of defenders OR just standing passively around the perimeter.

    i'm not worried about burks. we have him under contract through 2014 (with the option to extend thru '15) and he's got time to grow up. but giving a guy minutes he hasn't earned can hurt him developmentally just as much as not giving him minutes at all. and right now... BURKS. HAS. NOT. EARNED. IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theNBAnerd View Post
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    probably my #3 frustration in every game (after the static offense and the lack of help D from the bigs) is foye's absolutely laughable perimeter D. so i get that foye has his weaknesses.

    but foye finds ways to contribute. carroll, who has maybe a third the talent that burks has, finds ways to contribute. marvin and gordon find ways to contribute. if burks played with that mentality -- i don't know if i'll get shots but i know what i CAN do to make the team better tonight -- he'd be playing. corbin gave him a 4-game run in the rotation to prove he's ready, but a coach can't wait around 20 minutes for you to get into a groove. take memphis - he gets 7 valuable minutes in a winnable road game against a western playoff team, and he's so invisible (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0/2 shooting) that corbin COULDN'T go back to him in the second half. how long do you think corbin should have waited on him that night? 8 minutes? 10? 20? yet despite how bad he was that night, corbin still gave him MORE minutes in the next three games to give him a shot. the return on that investment: 7 points on 13 shots, and a guy who was either going head-down into a sea of defenders OR just standing passively around the perimeter.

    i'm not worried about burks. we have him under contract through 2014 (with the option to extend thru '15) and he's got time to grow up. but giving a guy minutes he hasn't earned can hurt him developmentally just as much as not giving him minutes at all. and right now... BURKS. HAS. NOT. EARNED. IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Notes View Post
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    Repped.
    Wow, logic, good post.

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