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    Hayward Doesn't mind coming off the bench.

    I've heard this before, and he confirmed in this article that Hayward doesn't mind coming off the bench:

    https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/5...bench.html.csp

    My question is do we like this or not? On the one hand it means that he is more flexible as far as how he is used and he won't be a locker room cancer or a pouty Millsap - er player I mean.

    On the other hand, does this mean that he doesn't have the fire to truly be great?

    I know he's really competitive, I have heard about how he is really pissed if he loses a game of one on one. Do we call BS on him being fine with coming off the bench? Is he just really good at PR stuff? I think of all of the players, he is the one who is most likely to be ok with it, but that brings us back to the question: Are we ok with him being ok with it?

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    I don't really think he minds. If anything, he probably likes it more as he gets to be a more focal point of the offense with the second unit.
    I don't believe that he will be a bench player for the rest of his career, but with the current Jazz lineup, being with the second unit is probably the best place he could be right now.

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    Why would he care? In the Bizzarro world that is The Jazz offensive system, he's better off and he knows it.

    He plays with a squad that actually kinda/sorta runs plays. He has a real PG feeding him the ball and he gets the most looks.

    What's not to like?

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    I am really starting to like and agree with Hayward as the sixth man. He seems to excel in that role. Good teams need a good 6th man as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
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    I am really starting to like and agree with Hayward as the sixth man. He seems to excel in that role. Good teams need a good 6th man as well.
    So do bad teams..... Just sayin'!!!!

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    Come on guys, does he mind .. ABSOLUTELY.

    Will he say that ... ABSOLUTELY NOT. He is too smart for that.

    Hayward is a fierce competitor and is an NBA Starter on almost all teams. (Not an all-star, but a starter).

    Here is my problem with it. The problem with the previous starting 5 was not Hayward, it was Black Hole, no defense Big Al.
    The difference with Hayward off the bench is he gets touches and handles the ball. Hmmmm, ever think to do that with the starters and get
    Al's ass out of here.

    Now that Favors is starting, Hayward needs to be in that lineup with Favors.

    PLUS, Hayward is a significantly better defender than Foye.

    What I want to see is who finishes. Washington/Rockets was not close at the end.
    We need to develop Hayward as a closer. He already closes out on key defensive possessions. I want the ball to go through him for last shots.

    Here's the deal. It is crap like this why someone like Hayward even will choose to leave Utah as soon as he can. Players want to start and play minutes.

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    Utah would be better served with Hayward in the starting line-up instead of Foye. Foye is instant offense off the bench and that where he should be. He could be Utah's Jason Terry. Hayward on the other hand would be beneficial in the starting line-up because he could be a distributor for the offense. Since Mo is a shoot first point guard and you have the Big 3 down low that need the ball, Hayward could play more of a PG role getting other involved, as well as driving and spotting up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candrew View Post
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    Why would he care? In the Bizzarro world that is The Jazz offensive system, he's better off and he knows it.

    He plays with a squad that actually kinda/sorta runs plays. He has a real PG feeding him the ball and he gets the most looks.

    What's not to like?
    So sad and true.
    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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    I think Hayward sees the bigger picture and wants to contribute to team wins more than buff his ego. I said it before he played a minute in a Jazz uniform, Hayward is a winner and winners win. He took his college team further than they were supposed to go. How? Tenacity and finding ways to win. That's who he is. When he's not playing basketball he's playing real time strategy games and at a high level. I think Hayward is honestly about putting the best constructed team on the floor and using that team's strength in the best possible way, fitting into that and finding a way to make it work.

    Did I mention that I really like Hayward. Even when he's not shooting well he is contributing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by udflyer View Post
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    Come on guys, does he mind .. ABSOLUTELY.

    Will he say that ... ABSOLUTELY NOT. He is too smart for that.

    Hayward is a fierce competitor and is an NBA Starter on almost all teams. (Not an all-star, but a starter).

    Here is my problem with it. The problem with the previous starting 5 was not Hayward, it was Black Hole, no defense Big Al.
    The difference with Hayward off the bench is he gets touches and handles the ball. Hmmmm, ever think to do that with the starters and get
    Al's ass out of here.

    Now that Favors is starting, Hayward needs to be in that lineup with Favors.

    PLUS, Hayward is a significantly better defender than Foye.

    What I want to see is who finishes. Washington/Rockets was not close at the end.
    We need to develop Hayward as a closer. He already closes out on key defensive possessions. I want the ball to go through him for last shots.

    Here's the deal. It is crap like this why someone like Hayward even will choose to leave Utah as soon as he can. Players want to start and play minutes.
    I disagree with this. That mentality is what's wrong with the NBA.

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