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    He's been worth every bloody cent of this contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
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    And anyone that pays 9+ million for even one year is overpaying.
    Bass made six IIRC. Last year & offseason everyone was giving Sap a clean 10-12.5+. Hard to see 18 games knocking $4mm or more off his value. Shows how dumb we are as fans I guess.

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    He's been worth every bloody cent of this contract.
    Amen brother. The Sap bashing on here is shameful of fans. No need to vent our frustrations on real humans for being what they are.


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    The Perk deal is Sap for Perk, not Jeffy

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackham9258 View Post
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    The Perk deal is Sap for Perk, not Jeffy
    If OKC is doing that it takes the Toronto pick and they could land Varejao with that, who's a much better defender & fit.

    Millsap & Foye for PJIII, Perk & the TOR pick works after Dec. 15. If I'm OKC I want Varejao without dropping PJIII into it. I don't see Foye as an absolute need for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
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    If OKC is doing that it takes the Toronto pick and they could land Varejao with that, who's a much better defender & fit.

    Millsap & Foye for PJIII, Perk & the TOR pick works after Dec. 15. If I'm OKC I want Varejao without dropping PJIII into it. I don't see Foye as an absolute need for them.
    I would take that trade even if the Toronto pick is not included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
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    I would take that trade even if the Toronto pick is not included.
    Why?


    (Perk 3 total years contract)


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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
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    Why?


    (Perk 3 total years contract)
    Didn't realize that. Can I revoke my previous statement?
    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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    my opinion of current player value:

    Mo: 5 mil, maybe 6

    Foye: 4 or 5. More than he's getting, but he is proving to be a pretty darn good 3 point shooter. Value goes down because of his lack of size though.

    Hayward: Right now, 4.5. Shows promise but lacks consistency. Typical for young players.

    Burks: 3 mil. Needs to learn the game, but right now value is about 3.

    Marvin: 7.5. Yeah, I'd be fine if he keeps his last year, he's a good all around player.

    Millsap: also 7.5 I can't see much in his game that is any better than marvin.

    Al: 9 mil. He's getting a lot more than that but even with his offensive power, he has too many weaknesses to be paid
    like a star.

    Kanter: Right Now? actually he really deserves about 5 mil, with his size and energy. That could go up as he learns the game.

    Favors: Still pretty raw, but valuable to the team, he gets about 6 as he is right now. Again, that could go up as he gets better.

    Demaree Carroll: Probably about 3.5 to 4, he is getting better and is a good energy guy.

    Everyone else gets less than 3 mil, just filler players.

    That puts us a roughly 65 million, which is pretty close to the tax threshold. Now I understand that half of these players won't take contracts that low, which is why there is no way that the team stays together after this offseason, but this is again what I think they are worth.

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    lol @ favors with 6 mil. He'd start at C or PF for over half the teams in this league.

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    I think the Jazz are prepared to lose Millsap as a free agent. They're still in the process of bringing along the young players and looking for other assets and probably aren't too worried about competing this year. A bunch of players are uncommitted after the end of the season--Al, Sap, Mo, and Foye. I honestly think they're playing Paul a) as a favor to keep his value up for his impending free agency, and b) to keep his value up for a potential trade. I think Millsap knows he's the odd man out, and that's why he's half-stepping it.

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