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    you know i dont agree with everyone saying bomb the season. you look at utah though the years. after stackton and malone left people were yelling rebulid as well. but during those years we made the play offs every year except 2 i think, and then dwill was ready to take over and we went to the western conf finals.we accomplished a few good learning playoff runs for our young in experinced guys, and then we took it to the west. jazz org have shown they can do both. this is a rebulid year for jazz. and we dont have to be lottery bound to rebuild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berkkobe View Post
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    lol when kanter's minutes transforms into 28 he 's got 12 pts 8 rbs 1.6 like this assist and vucevic plays three years in college
    So when are Kanters minutes going to transform? Vucivic plays Kanter doesn't. Paying Kanter 5 million to enjoy the games from the front row makes no sense to me.

    Its a game thread so I won't rattle on about why teams shouldn't draft project big men in the top 5 picks or why the wiser move for the Jazz would have been Knight/ Vuceivic or Knight/Leonard.

    Anyways, I came back to post this news about Marvin.

    Marvin Williams was upgraded to a gametime decision Wednesday for the 7 p.m. game against the Orlando Magic after he did not experience headaches following Tuesday's practice.

    "I'm doing much, much better," the Jazz's starting small forward said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
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    So when are Kanters minutes going to transform? Vucivic plays Kanter doesn't. Paying Kanter 5 million to enjoy the games from the front row makes no sense to me.

    Its a game thread so I won't rattle on about why teams shouldn't draft project big men in the top 5 picks or why the wiser move for the Jazz would have been Knight/ Vuceivic or Knight/Leonard.
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    you are close here. Best would have been Valanciunas/Leonard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
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    Kind of want to see Nikola Vucevic play. He was drafted 16 when Jazz drafted Kanter 3rd. Vucevic plays more, and I think all his numbers are better. Vucevic plays 29 minutes 10 points, 8.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 1.25 blocks.

    Kanter plays 14 minutes, 6 points, 4 rebounds, less than 1 assist, .53 blocks

    That 'upside' will get you every time.
    Vucevic looks decent, thats for sure. And 6 pts and less then 1 ast for Kanter is very generous, it is 5.6 and 0.4 actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berkkobe View Post
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    lol when kanter's minutes transforms into 28 he 's got 12 pts 8 rbs 1.6 like this assist and vucevic plays three years in college
    Not really true. Players rarely maintain their production per minute basis when given more minutes and even if you do pure math Kanter per 28min is 11.2pts, 7.6reb, 0.8ast 1 blk. Beats in pts, loses in everything else. 3d pick vs 16pick. Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
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    you are close here. Best would have been Valanciunas/Leonard.
    Do you really thing they'd get any more time than Kanter/Burks? I still see Corbin playing the vets in front of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGolds View Post
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    Random thought
    you know i dont agree with everyone saying bomb the season. you look at utah though the years. after stackton and malone left people were yelling rebulid as well. but during those years we made the play offs every year except 2 i think, and then dwill was ready to take over and we went to the western conf finals.we accomplished a few good learning playoff runs for our young in experinced guys, and then we took it to the west. jazz org have shown they can do both. this is a rebulid year for jazz. and we dont have to be lottery bound to rebuild.
    1. How do you think the Jazz ended up with D-Will?
    2. That playoff run sure taught D-Will and Boozer how to win more playoff games.
    3. #8 GSW beat Dallas.
    4. I hope we lose tonight.
    5. Continual tanking is fool proof actually -- 5 of the top 7 picks in 2006 were Bargnani, Adam Morrison, Randy Foye, Sheldon Williams, & Tyrus Thomas. Obviously the Jazz should have tanked D-Will's rookie season and drafted the 2nd piece of their multi-championship duo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
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    1. How do you think the Jazz ended up with D-Will?
    2. That playoff run sure taught D-Will and Boozer how to win more playoff games.
    3. #8 GSW beat Dallas.
    4. I hope we lose tonight.
    5. Continual tanking is fool proof actually -- 5 of the top 7 picks in 2006 were Bargnani, Adam Morrison, Randy Foye, Sheldon Williams, & Tyrus Thomas. Obviously the Jazz should have tanked D-Will's rookie season and drafted the 2nd piece of their multi-championship duo.
    Tanking is demoralizing to a team and its fan base. The lottery hasn’t helped charlotte or wizards much. Honestly it’s no fun being a fan of a team that you know is tanking. Warriors playoff run against Dallas was a super exciting time.. overcoming odds is what makes good memories and good movies. Jazz still have all the pieces, we are just still getting it all put together. It will come together soon enough.
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    While I still wish we have nabbed Leonard instead of Burks- I think it is really premature to want Vucevic over Kanter.

    One positive sign in Kanter's favor is Vucevic is averaging 4.7 FGM and 9.7 FGA per game. Kanter makes 2.5 FGM and attempts 4.6 shots per game.

    In other words Vucevic shots about 48% and Kanter is shooting 54%.

    Subjectively Kanter seems to create in the post better than Vucevic and his IMO Kanter's jumper is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qman View Post
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    While I still wish we have nabbed Leonard instead of Burks- I think it is really premature to want Vucevic over Kanter.

    One positive sign in Kanter's favor is Vucevic is averaging 4.7 FGM and 9.7 FGA per game. Kanter makes 2.5 FGM and attempts 4.6 shots per game.

    In other words Vucevic shots about 48% and Kanter is shooting 54%.

    Subjectively Kanter seems to create in the post better than Vucevic and his IMO Kanter's jumper is better.
    Kanter has much nicer abs

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