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    I do not think guns are the issue. Mentally troubled people is the issue.

    To reinforce this is the fact that Chicago had one of the strictest gun laws in the country. Chicago has had more homicides this year than American deaths in Afghanistan.
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    How Japan has eliminated virtually all shooting deaths

    I'm not advocating this extreme but just emphasizing that gun control does have an effect on the number of shooting deaths there are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
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    I do not think guns are the issue. Mentally troubled people is the issue.

    To reinforce this is the fact that Chicago had one of the strictest gun laws in the country. Chicago has had more homicides this year than American deaths in Afghanistan.

    Whats more likely we can control/fix err how ever you want to put it, Guns or mental health?

    Im not advocating taking away someone's rights to protect themselves, but right now, the system is broke. It way too easy for anyone to get their hands on a gun. Like I said before. Maybe the solution lies in technology.
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    I'll repeat what I said earlier in another thread...

    Sick people will find a way to do harm no matter the rules. Enacting stricter, more aggressive gun laws will only infringe on the rights of those who own and use them responsibly. Criminals circumvent the law. It's not rocket science!

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryselbows View Post
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    How Japan has eliminated virtually all shooting deaths

    I'm not advocating this extreme but just emphasizing that gun control does have an effect on the number of shooting deaths there are.
    I've lived in Japan for over 4 years. Guess who the only ones with guns are besides the police. Yep, the yakuza (mafia).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surely View Post
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    I've lived in Japan for over 4 years. Guess who the only ones with guns are besides the police. Yep, the yakuza (mafia).
    Who generally shoot each other and other unsavoury characters.

    I'm not too worried about big-time mobsters having guns. They're generally smart enough not to use them randomly. After all, I don't owe them money, I haven't vying with them for turf control, and I generally don't have any touching points with them.

    I'm more worried about random guys with guns who don't have a multimillion dollar criminal empire to protect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLes View Post
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    Who generally shoot each other and other unsavoury characters.

    I'm not too worried about big-time mobsters having guns. They're generally smart enough not to use them randomly. After all, I don't owe them money, I haven't vying with them for turf control, and I generally don't have any touching points with them.

    I'm more worried about random guys with guns who don't have a multimillion dollar criminal empire to protect.
    Just hope you're not in the area when they decide to enforce their turf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surely View Post
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    I've lived in Japan for over 4 years. Guess who the only ones with guns are besides the police. Yep, the yakuza (mafia).
    Does this mafia go around shooting up schools or just other bad guys? Honest question. Im curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hack View Post
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    Does this mafia go around shooting up schools or just other bad guys? Honest question. Im curious.
    Anything in between...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scat View Post
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    Just hope you're not in the area when they decide to enforce their turf.
    It's not a very nice thing to say, but gang violence generally happens in neighbourhoods with much lower property prices than mine.

    What I'm trying to say is that on average, a person unconnected to organized crime is very unlikely to get killed by mobsters. Like my mum, who has had the fear of Vietnamese gangs put in her by local media. Total number of middle-aged, white, Jewish, accountant ladies killed by them -- zero.

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