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    What gun regulation that is not already in place would you propose?
    You're not going to agree with it so why post it? The whole system needs an overhaul. From the amount of ammo these guns can carry, which guns are available for purchase, and the mental evaluations needed to obtain these weapons. It's pretty obvious that we cannot keep kicking the can down the road like the GOP has done for so long.

    Great, but this is not the federal government's domain. School districts or state government, maybe. Definitely not the federal government placing troops in the schools.
    Great! Are you ready to pay more in taxes to support your "local" school district/government?

    Both horrendous ideas.
    LOL. Of course. Free market can solve any and every ill. Just look at our wonderful health care system which doesn't spend twice as much as the #2 country and covers everyone... Just look at how costs have not skyrocketed since Reagan deregulated this industry.

    I think one of the best ideas is one that you and a number of others here are going to hate. Depending on the size of the school, anywhere from 4 to a dozen teachers and staff should be well trained in the use of a particular firearm and allowed to keep them at school.
    As someone who has personal experience as an educator (and who has several close family and friends) all (myself included) are completely against this idea.

    whoever, as long as they pass a rigorous training and psychological course and are reevaluated yearly. Did you read the article I posted about mass shootings in the U.S.?
    Great! Will you pay for this training? We don't even have AC in many schools here in this state. So will you help fund the training necessary for your solution?

    In the last 62 years, only one mass shooting has not occurred in a "gun free zone".
    Cool. So what is this supposed to prove?

    The Aurora shooter chose a theater that specifically stated that firearms were not allowed on the premises and drove past at least half a dozen other theaters to terrorize this particular location.
    Are you really suggesting that the shooter, dressed up as the Joker (the previous villain in Batman) purposely sought after a "gun free" zone at his local theater to attack folks at the midnight showing of the final Batman movie? So had that place not been a gun-free zone that the "Joker" wouldn't have attacked there?

    That really puts a lot of faith into your state's school system. I can see why Christie wants to fire all of you.
    Are you suggested that non-unionized teachers are better gun shooters than unionized ones?

    How about private school teachers, are they better?

    Or are you suggesting wall street or banking execs working in the "private sector" are better shooters than those in the public sector?

    Speaking of Christie, think he's a better shooter than a lot of teachers? I know he can eat more pizza than most of them. But what about his shooting skills?

    Your comment was more of a cheap ass shot rather than an intelligent comment. Consider us even now.
    Get Educated

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLI baby View Post
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    I haven't read almost any of this thread, but the thought of almost any of my middle school or high school teachers carrying weapons is utterly terrifying.

    Teaching is one of the most frustrating jobs you can have, and no offense but in large part its a job that seems to attract socially awkward people that don't seem to handle stressful situations all that well.

    I don't think I went a week without one of my teachers absolutely freaking out and losing their **** in middle school/high school and had a couple teachers physically confront me.

    No way teachers should be allowed to carry guns. That would be a disaster. Sorry if I'm missing some joke, I just popped in this thread.
    Where the hell would a teacher store this weapon?

    What would happen if a child ever got into it?
    Get Educated

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    ...And perhaps there can never be any agreement on these issues and we will just have to accept that these sorts of things are going to happen and that's the price we pay for living in a democracy.
    well, I understand your view and respect your general sort of way. . . . but I just have to comment on this "demcracy" thing. I know that's what schools, the media, and general governance personnel like to say we are. . . . and what most people think we are. . . .

    So here's Benjamin Franklin's take on "Democracy": "Two wolves and sheep deciding who's for dinner".

    If you fundamentally believe 51% of the people can define the rights of all, you do not believe in liberty, human rights or even have a decent respect for your neighbors. . . . just sayin'. . . .
    oops, sorry Babe, I misspoke - what I really meant to say is:

    we just have to accept that these sorts of things are going to happen and that's the price we pay for living

    that's all - it's pretty simple really
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thriller View Post
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    Where the hell would a teacher store this weapon?
    On their person?

    Just a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thriller View Post
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    Where the hell would a teacher store this weapon?

    What would happen if a child ever got into it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
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    Yeah, bro, if a bro principal can't be trusted bro then we should blindly trust them. Good one sensitive hardass.
    FWIW, let me post random stats now like a bro about some random **** with no meaning like a bro. Wanna lift weights and **** now like a bro EYE?
    Keep trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thriller View Post
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    You're not going to agree with it so why post it? The whole system needs an overhaul. From the amount of ammo these guns can carry, which guns are available for purchase, and the mental evaluations needed to obtain these weapons. It's pretty obvious that we cannot keep kicking the can down the road like the GOP has done for so long.



    Great! Are you ready to pay more in taxes to support your "local" school district/government?



    LOL. Of course. Free market can solve any and every ill. Just look at our wonderful health care system which doesn't spend twice as much as the #2 country and covers everyone... Just look at how costs have not skyrocketed since Reagan deregulated this industry.



    As someone who has personal experience as an educator (and who has several close family and friends) all (myself included) are completely against this idea.



    Great! Will you pay for this training? We don't even have AC in many schools here in this state. So will you help fund the training necessary for your solution?



    Cool. So what is this supposed to prove?



    Are you really suggesting that the shooter, dressed up as the Joker (the previous villain in Batman) purposely sought after a "gun free" zone at his local theater to attack folks at the midnight showing of the final Batman movie? So had that place not been a gun-free zone that the "Joker" wouldn't have attacked there?



    Are you suggested that non-unionized teachers are better gun shooters than unionized ones?

    How about private school teachers, are they better?

    Or are you suggesting wall street or banking execs working in the "private sector" are better shooters than those in the public sector?

    Speaking of Christie, think he's a better shooter than a lot of teachers? I know he can eat more pizza than most of them. But what about his shooting skills?

    Your comment was more of a cheap ass shot rather than an intelligent comment. Consider us even now.
    Sometimes your responses are pretty telling.

    So you're saying that since you're a compliance-trained educational professional you just simply can't process or comprehend an alternative view?

    If so, I'd have to agree with you that such dehumanized propagandists don't want to take responsible action to prevent harm to children in any way that requires courage, common sense, or intelligence. . . . . . and indeed are trained to unquestioningly accept incompetent "state-sanctioned solutions" to all of society's ills.

    Almost without exception, in the past twenty years, let's call it the Prozac Age, shooters who can stand there and gun down random kids and/or adults in a designated no-guns-allowed zone have done it after professional psychiatric "help" and standard prescription SRI or SSRI medications.

    yeah. right. lets medicate all the kids and ban guns.

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    This is starting to become a real concern. Better stock up on your guns, they might be illegal pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    This is starting to become a real concern. Better stock up on your guns, they might be illegal pretty soon.
    People already are. So you do not have to worry about that.

    Let's say that all guns were bad. What are you going to do round up all the guns? IF that is tried I guaranteee a civil war. I am not calling for one but I guarantee it would happen.

    If not then that makes your gun ban worthless as by the most conservative counts there are over 200 million legally/registered owned firearms and probably that number again in illegally/unregistered weapons.
    #BelieveInLindsey #BelieveInSnyder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
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    People already are. So you do not have to worry about that.
    Yes I do, because it means it's going to cost me a lot more now.

    Boehner needs to come out and publicly say gun control is d.o.a. so we can get off this.

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