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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
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    Different restrictions may or may not be useful. I would disagree with saying that all restrictions are beneficial.
    Gameface is trying to offer an olive branch. I have to defer to him on knowledge of guns. I've never had a gun, and don't want one, I don't even like to hunt. I hope you and gameface can share info enough to figure out which restrictions could make sense. . . . for me, after reading a lot of books on holocaust victims and Solzhenitsyn's Gulag tales, I just figure there is no good reason the government authorities will ever respect. It's all about how to render you and the rest of the commoners politically impotent. So I say just don't give them any pretext to stand on.

    that was the considered opinion after the fact of those who had to put their lives on the line for independence in America in 1776.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
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    Israel's government today has moved hard against segments of their population that pose real threats to the general peace, and in doing so have become more influenced over the years by what I call "fascists" or militarist sorts. . . , not to say they haven't always had a strong component of marxists in the mix. And yes, they have some "elites" with inordinate influence in their government. . .

    I guess you're sorta trying to make this a racist issue or something. No, it's about the common things governments do. . . . . almost everywhere. . . . unless you take special efforts to keep it from being done in the good old-fashioned warlord/merchantmonopolist way.

    When I was in Israel I was appreciative of the soldiers in their stations with their weapons on display, ready for use in an instant. I'm sure it kept me alive where my throat would have been slit just as quickly if they had not been there.

    I've said it before, but Obama and the media moguls all know how to protect their kids, they just don't want our kids to have the same protection. But the good news is that the kids going back to school now will have armed police very visible around them. . . .
    I waited a couple of days. I thought that if I did I would come to a different conclusion as far as JF goes. Sadly, no. I will try to be a reasonable person. But I will also stand up for my own self. Anyways, cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
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    The British disarmed India without a whimper, and it took a Gandhi to remove the actual presence of British troops. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to be a Gandhi in some small way. India still hasn't shaken itself free of British neocolonialism under the false flag of the UN, and we still have British Lords wishing they could die and come back as a plague capable of decimating the human population on Planet Earth. . . . so there could be bigger forests to run the dogs after the foxes where gallant nobility could ride their fine steeds unimpeded by human rabble. . . .
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    I waited a couple of days. I thought that if I did I would come to a different conclusion as far as JF goes. Sadly, no. I will try to be a reasonable person. But I will also stand up for my own self. Anyways, cheers.
    I hardly think I represent JF in general.

    And don't get me wrong, I think standing up for your own self is what it is all about.

    I might try to shake you up if I consider you're standing inside some comfy insulated bubble all rosy with happiness at the way things are, and I think there's reason to move along. . . . but probably in the current time very few would call me "progressive" or "reasonable". . . . unless you can catch my drift. . . . that I think "progressive" is something that accumulates in the power of individuals their inherent, natural, or some would say "God-given" liberties and human dignity. And not things that accumulate in the hands of government or special folks their prerogatives to lord it over the rest.

    but being able to stand apart from a discussion after having said a piece, or leave others to muddle in their angst.. . .does in my view lend a little credence to your stature as "reasonable". At some point along the way, even amongst folks who are on the same bandwagon. . . . we all have to both leave others as they choose to be, and live in our own way. . . .

    well, unless we just can't get through with the idea that "there oughta be a law" to fix other people our way. . . .

    cheers.

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    You do realize that Gandhi was referring to military membership and military arms, not personal arms, right?
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    You do realize that Gandhi was referring to military membership and military arms, not personal arms, right?
    I wouldn't just assume that from the quote itself. . . . . maybe if I had the source and could read it all it might come out like that. . . .

    but seriously, the only reason the Brits would pass an act that proscribes 'native Indians' from having their own military units is because they are, after all, an occupying imperialist force, right???? I'm sure it was intended to prevent the subjects from learning how to project armed power in their own interests. . . . which really makes it in fact an issue of the second amendment right to keep and bear arms without infringement. . . . .

    You really think that's right? I mean, in your dream world, you want some superior nation just lording it over lesser nations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scat View Post
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    Not sure i understand the point of this..... She shot a man with a .38 handgun that she legally bought right?

    I dont think any gun control measures are being talked about in this thread that say people who can pass a background check should not be able to buy small handguns.

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