01-08-2013, 04:12 PM
01-08-2013 04:12 PM
01-08-2013, 04:22 PM
01-08-2013, 04:25 PM
lol, my bad.
Originally Posted by Gameface
01-08-2013, 05:48 PM
01-08-2013, 06:59 PM
"Civil War" isn't the right term here.
Originally Posted by Stoked
First of all, I've got a book called "Treason in America" authored by one of Lyndon LaRouche's world management cadets that explored the activities of British agents, and others in obvious ways sporting British views and aims, in promoting the causes of Abolitionists in the North as well as Secessionists in the South in the run up to our 1861-1865 "civil war".
That war was a classic Machiavellian maneuver intended to balkanize the Union and allow British international cartels to again control the colonies. . . . Abraham Lincoln was the choice of the New York bankers under the mesmerization of sophisticated English aristocrats in various high and holy social circles. . . . and they expected that his election would precipitate the secession of Southern States. . .. but he turned out to be a huge disappointment in that he refused to anybody else's man. He had his own star to guide him, and he believed in human freedom at least in the freedom of the United States from England.
But the British were willing to bide their time, and after the war their financial tycoons moved into the United States like the carpetbaggers moved into the South, and took effective control through their financial dealings which has persisted to this day.
The ideals of the American Revolution have indeed suffered in the extreme under the influence of neo-colonialist sophisitry.
If we have to fight for our liberty, as we in fact must, the age of the gun is over. We will have to get smarter than the British, that's all it will take. And maybe impeach Obama whose chief intellectual deficit is his love of power and his willingness to subordinate all of his ideological hinge points to pleasing his puppet-masters.
I know some folks who expect to fight for their constitutional government. Like Alex Jones, they all suffer from a lack of actual understanding, and wouldn't know who to shoot at if the shooting starts.
I grew up studying LDS doctrine and prophecy, and understood that there would be a time of great civil strife, and even the Bible prophesies people in the last days being in unprecedented horrific times of trouble. I was disappointed many years ago when I knew the leaders of the LDS church, and knew their proclivities for playing a part in the last great evil government man would create. I hardly expect the likes of Romney, Huntsman, Hatch, or Reid to be in the fight to save the US Constitution.
But if anyone wants to sit out of the shooting and mayhem, it is time to find some place to gather and choose peace and refuse to be a part of the killing. So here's a hint. Don't think Chicago or any gun-free zone is going to be a place of peace.
"The New World Order" will make earlier horrors of unrestrained government in the hands of evil ambitious and paranoid men look pretty tame. But there is no place on earth where there is sufficient cognizance of the either the problem or the solution, and so it is time to vote with your feet. Come to Utah.
01-08-2013, 07:09 PM
The LDS church has placed susbstantial amounts of money, man power adn resources into"modernizing" places. Like adding plumbing to young women camps and making out of the way places viable. I think Utah (and other LDS dominated areas like Idaho) would handle any extreme civil strife better than almost anywhere else in the US on a societal level.
01-08-2013, 11:25 PM
this is indeed a very minimal assessment of community preparations here for human needs in time of trouble, but I was thinking more of the "critical mass" of public sentiments and virtues. People who will help their neighbors in time of need. Of how neighbors in Utah communities, particularly Mormons in their wards, would roll outta their houses to speak up against some pre-gulag gun confiscation squad breaking down Brother Jones' front door in the middle of the night.
Originally Posted by Stoked
I'm still waiting for the lights to come on at KSL news, though. They're still parroting the mainstream news talking points like any other stupid local news outfit.
The small Utah town of Spring City, in central Utah. . . sporting about a thousand residents and maygbe two hundred homes tops, has recommended every home be equipped with personal defense weapons, and announced a program to assist with concealed carry permit training, and other weapon training. Some whiners are threatening to sue against public funds being dispensed for such purposes, but it's actually very cost-effective compared to paying for a city cop to park in front of the Seven-Eleven all night drinking the free hot chocolate or Slurpees or Dr. Pepper, trying to stay awake. . . .
And if Alex Jones isn't just up in the night worrying about UN armadas of swat teams driving into town to pick up all the guns. . . . well, in this town the cop or maybe sherriff, with about a hundred "deer hunters" trained to shoot responsibly would make the three vehicles with military equipment decide to just turn around and go to the next town. . . .
So come to Utah, folks, and help declare a totalitarian governance-free zone no SRI/prozac dude would choose for a place to make a grand stand against the world by shooting unprotected kids.
01-09-2013, 07:21 AM
I have to admit that I enojoy reading your posts Babe. Very ... provacative. I was just reading about the Spring City "recomendation". They are also trying to arm and train the 20+ elementary school teachers/officials.
As for the UN angle. If the UN (foreign troops) came onto US soil to confiscate guns there would be war. Send a UN platoon into a place like Cold Water MS to take peoples guns away and the next time you see those troops is when their bodies are dumped off at the morgue.
01-09-2013, 10:18 AM
didn't you mean check post #536? This thread is only on page 14 on my computer.
Originally Posted by larryselbows
a blast from the past ... - - - -
and a glimpse into the future...
01-09-2013, 10:41 AM
I thought about that after I posted. Figured larryselbows was a default settings kind of guy and let it go.
Originally Posted by moevillini