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    If people could buy a flame thrower would you expect them to become common amongst criminals?
    Yes. Criminals will use whatever they can to gain an edge. For many people, being set on fire is scarier than being shot.

    If you don't let law-abiding citizens own flame-throwers, than only criminals will own flame-throwers.
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    Yes. Criminals will use whatever they can to gain an edge. For many people, being set on fire is scarier than being shot.

    If you don't let law-abiding citizens own flame-throwers, than only criminals will own flame-throwers.
    That would absolutely be true if flame throwers had been legal and common for hundreds of years and then suddenly outlawed.

    It would also be true today if criminals cared about flame throwers.

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    What I recall is that they were reported to be perceived as threatening, an entirely different thing from actively threatening people. As for the badges, many people take going around armed as a sign of hate.

    I'm not particularly upset about the guy in JC Penney's. I'm in giggles over your attempt to say he's less threatening that a couple of guys that don't even have guns.
    I recall them actively trying to intimidate people.
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    Yes. Criminals will use whatever they can to gain an edge. For many people, being set on fire is scarier than being shot.

    If you don't let law-abiding citizens own flame-throwers, than only criminals will own flame-throwers.
    The problem with that scenario is that there is a much more plentiful, cheaper and more effecient weapon. The handgun.

    I do like how you tried to turn that around though.
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    That would absolutely be true if flame throwers had been legal and common for hundreds of years and then suddenly outlawed.

    It would also be true today if criminals cared about flame throwers.
    So, criminals in England and Germany don't care about guns? Because both countries went from a period where gun controls were more lax to one where they were less lax. It's almost as if criminals only care about using whatever is handy to get an edge, which in a country where knives are legal and plentiful, while guns are scarce and therefore expensive, means a knife for most of them.
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    I recall them actively trying to intimidate people.
    You mean, by carrying a weapon around? You're saying it's more intimidating to carry a baseball bat than a gun?
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    What I recall is that they were reported to be perceived as threatening, an entirely different thing from actively threatening people. As for the badges, many people take going around armed as a sign of hate.

    I'm not particularly upset about the guy in JC Penney's. I'm in giggles over your attempt to say he's less threatening that a couple of guys that don't even have guns.
    I am in "giggles" over many of your stances. To be honest I am glad that I do not see the world thru your eyes.
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    You mean, by carrying a weapon around? You're saying it's more intimidating to carry a baseball bat than a gun?
    From what I remember they were verbally warning people who to vote for and other such comments. Plus publicly displaying their allegiance to a hate group.

    No different than a KKK member being at a polling place in MS with a noose.
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    The problem with that scenario is that there is a much more plentiful, cheaper and more effecient weapon. The handgun.

    I do like how you tried to turn that around though.
    Thank you.

    Knives are even cheaper and more plentiful than guns. They seem to be the criminal weapon of choice in counties where the populace is mostly unarmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Brow View Post
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    So, criminals in England and Germany don't care about guns? Because both countries went from a period where gun controls were more lax to one where they were less lax. It's almost as if criminals only care about using whatever is handy to get an edge, which in a country where knives are legal and plentiful, while guns are scarce and therefore expensive, means a knife for most of them.
    There have been several comments about England passing some sort of assault weapons ban. I hope most people understand that England basically outlawed private ownership of firearms and confiscated and destroyed the majority of privately owned firearms.

    Let's not pretend like we're going to get results like England and Australia unless we're willing to take the measures they took, which absolutely includes confiscation.

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