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    what I've heard is that he was definitely working with him as a mentor to try to help him deal with post-traumatic stress disorder. So yes, he knew the guy had problems. Obviously wasn't expecting the final outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moevillini View Post
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    what I've heard is that he was definitely working with him as a mentor to try to help him deal with post-traumatic stress disorder. So yes, he knew the guy had problems. Obviously wasn't expecting the final outcome.
    The solution is video games! Get your violent tendencies out on pixels!

    Seriously, that is a messed up situation.
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    Also, I don't recall asking for any specific thing in this thread, except to find ways to reduce the number of bullets a shooter can send out in a killing rampage. What laws do that?
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    You can't reduce it. They have already shown they don't give a damn about your laws.
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    Changing what is available will gradually change what is available to criminals, as well, whether they care about the laws or not. So, your blanket proclamation of an inability to reduce the number of bullets is false.
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    I never said reduce the number of bullets so nice try there.
    Your responded by my comment about reducing the number of bullets by claiming it can't be done. Be an adult, and stand behind your words or else renounce them.
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    As for the suicidal remark. Do you mean to imply that every criminal ...
    Since I referred to a very specific class of criminals in my post, I obviously did not mean to imply every criminal.
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    Of course it's more prevalent than a very narrowly defined circumstance. How do the numbers come out when you add everything to the other side of the ledger equally as you have with your gun owner killings side? I'm guessing rape alone is at least more than 10 times and home invasions at least quadruple.

    Can you be more specific?
    Owning and carrying a gun doesn't significantly reduce your chances of being raped. Most home invasions occur when the homeowner is absent. So, adding them in the discussion about guns doesn't produce equality.

    Specifically, the remarkably high number of gun deaths, compared to other developed nations.
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    Anyone arguing that there should be strict gun control needs to read Federalist #46. James Madison (You remember him, correct? Often referred to as The Father of the Constitution) wrote that an armed citizenry was needed to form a civilian militia in the event that an over zealous federal army overstepped its bounds. That's pretty hard to do with pea shooters and only 7 peas...

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    I agree. The civilian militia, organized at a state and local level, lives on today in the National Guard. If you interpret the Second Amendment in this way, we are in complete accord. The right of the people to serve in the National Guard should not be infringed.

    I recently read that the idiom "bear arms", pre-Civil War, meant actual military service. It would not have been said that a man our shooting buffalo had borne arms.
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    I agree. The civilian militia, organized at a state and local level, lives on today in the National Guard. If you interpret the Second Amendment in this way, we are in complete accord. The right of the people to serve in the National Guard should not be infringed.
    The problem with the National Guard is that it has fallen under presidential jurisdiction and can be deployed by the Commander in Chief. It no longer serves the purpose that it once did. It is simply another branch of the federal military.

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    The problem with the National Guard is that it has fallen under presidential jurisdiction and can be deployed by the Commander in Chief. It no longer serves the purpose that it once did. It is simply another branch of the federal military.

    Then the Second Amendme nt solution would be to restore the National Guard control tothe states, right?
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    Then the Second Amendme nt solution would be to restore the National Guard control tothe states, right?
    The Supreme Court disagrees with you. They state that we have the right to have and bear arms, unconnected to military service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
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    The Supreme Court disagrees with you. They state that we have the right to have and bear arms, unconnected to military service.
    Yep. Just a bunch of activist judges perverting the original meaning of the Constitution.
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