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    Quote Originally Posted by MoTown16 View Post
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    Ah, Hayward just plays video games instead of reading Russian novels. Effect is the same.
    When Hayward gets a full color tattoo that covers his whole back, of his character in a video game, then we can talk about it being comparable to AK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbroncs View Post
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    No he wouldn't. That's not max player stats. It wasn't when AK signed his either. I never liked that contract and I was very disappointed when they signed it.
    How is that not max player stats? A small forward that blocks 3 a game, steals 2 and gets 8 boards while putting up 16 points is almost impossible to find nowadays. That is for sure max player stats. Defensive player of the year stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCamjazzfan View Post
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    How is that not max player stats? A small forward that blocks 3 a game, steals 2 and gets 8 boards while putting up 16 points is almost impossible to find nowadays. That is for sure max player stats. Defensive player of the year stats
    To me a max player is a guy that can carry a team to a victory in the playoffs. A guy with those stats is not that guy.
    Playoffs here we come. Pass the damn Kool-Aid

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbroncs View Post
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    To me a max player is a guy that can carry a team to a victory in the playoffs. A guy with those stats is not that guy.
    Or at least a guy that can carry a team to the playoffs, right?

    AK's best season, the Jazz missed the playoffs. They added more talent after that so they could make the playoffs, and AK cried because he was no longer the best player on the team (and his role was reduced, accordingly).

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    I'm hoping for Hayward to turn in to Mike Dunleavy Jr at this point. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    Hayward needs to start missing half of every season, crying to the media, complaining about his role, and disrespecting his hall of fame coach in public (or saying some no name coach in Europe would be better). Then we can compare him to AK.
    Ad hominem b.s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoTown16 View Post
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    Ah, Hayward just plays video games instead of reading Russian novels. Effect is the same.
    Ad hominem b.s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    Or at least a guy that can carry a team to the playoffs, right?

    AK's best season, the Jazz missed the playoffs. They added more talent after that so they could make the playoffs, and AK cried because he was no longer the best player on the team (and his role was reduced, accordingly).
    Ad hominem b.s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    Hayward needs to start missing half of every season, crying to the media, complaining about his role, and disrespecting his hall of fame coach in public (or saying some no name coach in Europe would be better). Then we can compare him to AK.
    BS. AK missed half the season only once due to freak injuries yet was still able to lead league in blocks that year.. Show me max player, All-star and All defensive first team whose minutes and FG attempts get cut in half and role reduced to perimeter space cleaning role player and who would not complain? Please show me at least one example of any max player/allstar in his prime being so badly misused as AK was by Sloan in 2007.
    Hall of fame coach? lol... what Sloan won in his life? hm.... Olympic gold as assistant? That's the role he was best suited for, not for the head coaching.
    Blatt on the other hand is one of most successful coach in international basketball, won everywhere he coached on club level in different leagues, with national teams and without having any player close to Stockton and Malone caliber.
    Being ignorant does not make you right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
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    BS. AK missed half the season only once due to freak injuries yet was still able to lead league in blocks that year.. Show me max player, All-star and All defensive first team whose minutes and FG attempts get cut in half and role reduced to perimeter space cleaning role player and who would not complain? Please show me at least one example of any max player/allstar in his prime being so badly misused as AK was by Sloan in 2007.
    Hall of fame coach? lol... what Sloan won in his life? hm.... Olympic gold as assistant? That's the role he was best suited for, not for the head coaching.
    Blatt on the other hand is one of most successful coach in international basketball, won everywhere he coached on club level in different leagues, with national teams and without having any player close to Stockton and Malone caliber.
    Being ignorant does not make you right!
    Since 2004, AK has only played in 70 games twice, with the most being 72 once. He's injury prone.

    And clearly those accolades you speak if weren't warranted if the dude couldn't even very a team to the playoffs.

    You ask what all star, defensive first team player wouldn't complain about a reduced role? The easy answer is, show me one that couldn't lead his team to the playoffs, and I bet he likely had his role reduced the next year. Did he complain? And did his team improve?

    Whatever you think of Sloan (and I wasn't a big fan of his either) the guy absolutely was a hall of famer. He had great success in the NBA, coaching at the highest level. His teams made the playoffs almost every year, and he consistently made scrubs look like good players. Blatt should not have his name mentioned in the same sentence as Sloan. His success in Europe is nothing compared to what Sloan accomplished. In 97 everyone had written the Jazz off. They were supposedly too old, and didn't have enough talent. They ended up with the second best record in the NBA and lost to Michael Jordan in the Finals. When Blatt comes to the NBA and does this, then you might be able to say his name in the same sentence as Sloan. When he comes to the NBA and does it consistently for 20+ years, then you can start to compare him to Sloan. Until then, he's a nobody.

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