I'm not sure what anyone is expecting from someone who has essentially been eliminated from the offense via Black Hole's chucking, Mo's chucking, and Foye's chucking. Marvin and Millsap are essentially ball boys in that starting lineup.
Not even Malone in his prime could average 20 pts with the amount of touches he would receive playing alongside 3 black holes.
One of the reasons why the second unit thrives is because no one chucks. The biggest "chucker" might be Burks or Kanter. But he typically gets to the FT line or passes far more than Foye, Black Hole, or Mo. And Kanter isn't near the ball stopper as Big Al.
12-29-2012 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by The Thriller
Great responses. I didn't expect anybody to actually give a reasonable response, so rep to both of you. On a second look his rebounding this year is actually his 2nd best year. The steals is really a huge dropoff, but I can accept one outlier. I guess what we are all looking for is a manifestation in statistics about what we all see when we watch games--Millsap is not 100% right.
Originally Posted by GVC
Agree with everything. The only thing I would add is I genuinely believe Ty just doesn't know how to put wrinkles in a post offense. In the Booze/Deron era, Booze would frequently establish the post. He'd hold the ball, too, but we knew 1 of 2 things would happen. He'd drive or take one of this fades (which I hated.) But there was one enormous difference between the Sloan and Ty offenses:
Originally Posted by SaltyDawg
1st: the wings would often pass into the post and quickly cut baseline for a possible give and go (Ronnie B the master at this.) 2nd: When Booze turned and faced, he usually had options such as AK cutting from the high post or Ronnie B cutting baseline. Booze was an excellent passer. 3rd: He could always pass back out to Deron and the offense could reset with the PnR.
Admittedly, we don't really have 3 as an option right now. But 1 and 2 will still work. Yet Ty can't seem to figure out how to get players to do this so we see what you're talking about -- Al (or ANY post player) basically going ISO while everyone watches the show.