A part of our dysfunction, at least very recently, is Mo's absence. Tinsley running the 2nd unit would help a lot. And Mo's not terrible.
12-31-2012 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by evantime
We have the 7th easiest schedule in the NBA from here on out with plenty of home games but I think there are 2 cases-
We'll be out of a playoff spot if the starting lineup doesn't change. We're starting 3 below average defenders and 1 incapable defender in Tinsley. If these 4 guys get significant minutes, the Jazz at bottom 5 defensive team.
Hayward and Favors are put into the starting lineup with Foye and Milsap out. All of a sudden we're a top 15 defensive team and we get into the playoffs at the 6-8 spot easy.
No. I think the Jazz have been actively shopping Milsap AND Jefferson but its a catch 22. On one hand, other teams know we want them gone so they offer less. On the other, the Jazz don't want a bad deal so they don't take the bad offers.
Mo's injury is likely season ending. We trade for a PG if we do make one. Al and/or Milsap should be dealt. Due to Milsap's recent comments, it will be him.
Biggest surprise? There's many.
1- I'm surprised at how much of a negative effect Foye has on the game. I wouldn't be surprised if it's historically bad.
2- Hayward, the elite defender. I'm amazed how Hayward is usually the go-to defender on this team and he always produces. He can guard the 1,2 or 3 and put up a hell of a fight against CP3 who is a dwarf compared to Hayward. Also, he's adding moves to his game. Floaters, hooks, post ups...it's coming along nicely.
3- Milsap, the terrible. Milsap has been unpleasant this season. He went from being the best player on this team to somewhere down below. His attitude is just terrible, he's got no offensive game anymore, his jumper looks flat. I really think he'll be making a squib wage next year and he made a huge mistake on the contract extension. I'm glad Ty is putting him on the bench in the 4th quarter.
Have no proof but I'm beginning to think Jazz are just marking this down as a throw away season.
They have given Corbin an extension for next year because that is the big turnaround target.
If they can't swing a killer type trade this season they will let all contracts expire and be set up
for next season and long term.
They will have massive money to bring in or keep the players they want next season.
They have the core, Favors, Kanter, maybe Hayward and Burks, to build around.
Only reason I see they are keeping Corbin and seem to be in no rush to make changes this year.
Of course, I'm probably completely wrong on any of this.
I always am.
Last edited by slc; 12-31-2012 at 04:01 PM.
1. I think the Jazz could be a playoff team, as high as a #6 seed, but losing their only player close to a starting point guard, bad coaching, and lingering trade rumors might make that impossible.
2. All five normal starters on the Jazz have the option to be somewhere else next year, and most know they aren't in the team's future plans. I think any of the following--Millsap, Foye and Marvin Williams--could be traded. I honestly don't know where the Jazz stand on Al Jefferson. He could be part of a 3-man front line with Favors and Kanter, or the Jazz could let him walk for being too expensive. I think several teams may go after Al in free agency, including the Knicks and Spurs. I think the Jazz will make some kind of trade and likely have a few options on the table. Looks like the Jazz held the GSW pick too long.
3. I honestly don't know who the Jazz would target, and don't really know who is available.
4. Biggest surprise has been Kanter's emerging IQ and offensive game. He still has a ways to go, but could be a difference maker, especially at PF, where he can overpower people down low and still step out to 15-18 feet. Burks is developing, but he's being given a short leash, and you can tell that the coaching staff is in his head over something they want him to do. Biggest disappointment has been Corbin's coaching. He doesn't seem to recognize mismatches in his favor or substitution patterns that build and keep the lead.
I agree with SLC that this season may get written off to development. There's been almost no continuity or identity in the offense. A number of players don't look like or play like they care that much. Several of the vets could be getting showcased in trades, and most know that they won't be here next year, leading them to play more selfishly and with less energy.
Why you don't want to admit that Corbin sucks?
Originally Posted by Cyrone Torbin
Originally Posted by Gameface
All of the above.
Originally Posted by Hack
"Adversity is opportunity in disguise."
Lots of the fans are overreacting. We were in bad shape last year after this many games and still made the playoffs. We had a road heavy schedule to start. The Jazz will work things out.
Biggest disappointment is Coach Ty Corbin. He runs a strict rotation and rarely deviates from it. This flaw many times has either killed runs or gotten us big deficits to start a ball game. There is a reason the Jazz lead the league in comeback victories the starters are constantly digging big holes for the team, and the bench gets us out of them. Another huge disappoint is Ty Corbin has no idea how to use Hayward in an offense. He should be the table setter for this team, and not spotting up. He's the best passer on the team, and great at getting to the foul line. He's the best at creAting for himself and others.
That may be true. Sometimes it's difficult to know, until done with retrospect, whether some were overreacting .. or others were underreacting.
Originally Posted by Thee jazz fan
Fortune and glory, kid. Fortune and glory.
Whining about playing too many road games is something losers do. It's not becoming to fans that should be smarter and it's especially so if the organization starts making such lame excuses.
Good teams win on the road. Pretenders worry about the question.
"Adversity is opportunity in disguise."