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    Quote Originally Posted by NUMBERICA View Post
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    No need for concern? Teams are just going to shrug off tens of millions of dollars in effective penalty? Or maybe I'm naive to something?
    how is it an effective penalty? the point is, the jazz will play the 90% minimum one way or another -- either by taking on bad salary they have no use for, or by assembling the team they actually want and then if they fall just short of 90%, salaries get adjusted upward by whatever percent is missing. how is that a penalty?

    but either way, it's nothing to worry about. $23M to spend is really nothing. jazz will have two draft picks, both in the late lotto or mid first round, so you're adding 3M there. at least one of al/paul/mo will be back at a figure that will come close to eight digits. let's say mo and paul both return, then there, they've spent their money. if only one guy does, then the jazz have 10M left to spend to hit minimum salary and 10 guys on the roster (mo/paul, marvin, the core or 4, evans, murph and two rookies). it's not hard to spend 10M to add 3-5 guys.

    and, if they don't spend it all by day 1, then they have until the trade deadline to put that flexibility to work in trades for future assets. a lot of our current team was acquired at least in part because of trades where we commodotized our cap space for other teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by candrew View Post
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    Jazz had the same problem in 2003 - they had to do a couple of creative things to get up to the minimum including signing but never playing Glen Rice.



    And they picked up Tom Gugliotta, who at the time made about a billion dollars a month and could barely lift his arms above his head anymore. Which of course came with the infamous "Knick Pick" which gave us 5+ glorious years of stimulating converstion on this board
    the reward for taking rice off of houston's hands wasn't googs... it was god.
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    Trade a tuna sandwich to a team for one overpaid vet who can't play along with a talented young player who is redundant on their team. Preferably a point guard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theNBAnerd View Post
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    the reward for taking rice off of houston's hands wasn't googs... it was god.
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    If one of the starting bigs is re-signed just frontload the **** out of their contract. After next year the Jazz will need a lot of free money to match offers on the young guys.
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    I don't recall the details, but I think there are new rules regarding front loading contracts. For example, I don't think a contract like Collison's is possible anymore.
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    I'd be interested in hearing the rules, because that is a good idea: frontload Al's or Millsap's contract and that opens up cap to re-sign Favors and Hayward and Alec and Kanter. Just restating and agreeing, in fact this is the only way I can forsee keeping either of those two without hampering the future. If the rules allow.

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    Sign Millsap to this contract next year.

    4 yeard deal

    Year 1 - 23 million dollars
    Year 2 - 11 million dollars
    Year 3 - 3 million dollars
    Year 4 - 3 million dollars.


    Ok. Jk. Probably not realistic. I wish though.

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    Franklin, I seem to remember you having some real details on this issue.

    Doesn't the new CBA mandate that annual decreases can't exceed a certain percentage of the previous year?

    Yeah, I'm lazy when it comes to legal jargon... I don't want to surf through that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAOS View Post
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    Franklin, I seem to remember you having some real details on this issue.

    Doesn't the new CBA mandate that annual decreases can't exceed a certain percentage of the previous year?

    Yeah, I'm lazy when it comes to legal jargon... I don't want to surf through that.
    Ive heard that too. I dont like it. I think its just puts more of a hamper on team's abilities to make trades. What wrong with a team front loading a contract a lot if they have the cap space? It would make players a lot easier to trade if the majority of their contract has been paid already.

    Just imagine how easy Millsap would be to trade after year 2 if he was on that contract I just made up.

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