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    Jonasty Valanciunas is J. V.... Junior Varsity! lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhindy View Post
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    The point I'm making is that saying a taller Reggie Evans is the floor of Kanter is just stupid.

    Look, I know you have a boner for AK and apparently anyone not on the Jazz, so why don't you just go root for a team that actually has players that you like? Being a Raptors fan is great fun, you'll get to watch OKC draft Shabazz a year after missing out on Barnes.
    Rep'd and IRL LOL....great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
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    akmvp - this is the nba. We are the utah jazz. We are not russia, we are not turkey, we don't have a millennia of fighting to sort out here .. Hell, it's not even about utah .. Just the jazz. Let it go bro.
    we are utah

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    Come on now, i thought we had a winner already. Same talks all over again, like a broken tape.. (Taller Reggie Evans description is just ridicolous btw.)

    https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?...Kanter-v-Jonas

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAKAR View Post
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    you cant be serious man, I see the rebounding numbers of an eurolegue proven 24 year old BIG-MAN like Pekovic who averaged on 13 minutes 3 rebounds per game, in his first NBA Season. And I see a Kanter boy who was comin into the league with a big leck of playing time (almost 2 years not played in a real competition), who averaged 4.2 Rebounds on 13 minutes playing time.

    I see Kanter as a player who can easily average like 20+ and 10+. Just look at Omar Asik from turkey even he is averging 12 boards per game in 30 minutes and Kanter is a much bigger rebounding talent than him.

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    Mirsat Turkcan who was the best euroleague rebounder of all time, said that Kanter was the most talented rebounder he has ever seen.
    LOL who in the hell is that? Please refrain from using the opinions of whack ass basketball players as any metric for predicting a player's potential.

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    Kanter

    Ceiling: Poor Mans Tim Duncan
    Likely: Taller Al Horford
    Floor: Nikola Pekovic

    Valanciunas

    Ceiling: Joakim Noah/Chris Kaman
    Likely: Emeka Okafor
    Floor: Andris Biedrins.

    Ranking of Centers from 2011 NBA DRAFT (based off future)
    1) Enes Kanter
    2) Nikola Vucevic
    3) Jonas Valanciunas/Bismack Biyombo (a tossup still)

    Enes Kanter has a higher ceiling and floor then Valanciunas at this point. I think Vucevic vs Kanter would be more fair of a discussion as Kanter looks to be better overall in almost every way then Valanciunas. How Valanciunas managed to only get 22 minutes a game on Toronto's roster so far is very pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larryselbows View Post
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    LOL who in the hell is that? Please refrain from using the opinions of whack ass basketball players as any metric for predicting a player's potential.
    I said that he was the best rebounder of all time in the Euroleague, even a better Rebounder than Omar Asik actually is, who is grabbing like 12 boards per game in the NBA under 30 minutes per game. If Kanter could turn into a better Rebounder than him, it would be huge.
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    Al is soft ? he is just a nice guy. Sometimes he avoids contact, just to protect other players from his strength. He is a player, who cares for other players. Trust me dude, they say BIG-AL breaks the neck of a bull, just with his pure hands.
    Why they call him BIG-AL, think of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Swordsman View Post
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    Kanter

    Ceiling: Poor Mans Tim Duncan
    Likely: Taller Al Horford
    Floor: Nikola Pekovic

    Valanciunas

    Ceiling: Joakim Noah/Chris Kaman
    Likely: Emeka Okafor
    Floor: Andris Biedrins.

    Ranking of Centers from 2011 NBA DRAFT (based off future)
    1) Enes Kanter
    2) Nikola Vucevic
    3) Jonas Valanciunas/Bismack Biyombo (a tossup still)

    Enes Kanter has a higher ceiling and floor then Valanciunas at this point. I think Vucevic vs Kanter would be more fair of a discussion as Kanter looks to be better overall in almost every way then Valanciunas. How Valanciunas managed to only get 22 minutes a game on Toronto's roster so far is very pathetic.

    wow another idiotic post ... not surprised you suck so much at discussing religion/science but it appears you have no clue about basketball as well.
    Please try to explain ( I know it is not possible as you just pulled stuff out of your a... ).. how on earth Kanter is better overall in almost every way then Valanciunas. Please include stats, achievements up to this level, wins on international level, physical data, etc. Good luck.
    Learning begins when you do not know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAKAR View Post
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    I said that he was the best rebounder of all time in the Euroleague, even a better Rebounder than Omar Asik actually is, who is grabbing like 12 boards per game in the NBA under 30 minutes per game. If Kanter could turn into a better Rebounder than him, it would be huge.
    Lots of ifs. You guys think that given minutes it is a sure fact that Kanter will rebound over 12per game? Keep in mind his rebounding is down this season and it is mostly vs second units. Only game he started and played 30+ minutes he grabbed 8 rebounds. And it was blowout win vs not even top rebounding team.
    Learning begins when you do not know the answer.

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    For the record I think Val is a really good prospect too, but he probably needs 2-3 years to fill out his upper body and become a consistant post player.

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