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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMVP View Post
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    He is not sucking, what are you smoking? Kanter played 4 times more games in NBA then JV and yet JV has more 3X more double doubles and better career high in pts. And it is not like his body is weak now - it is clear evidence that he is still growing into it and will put more weight on his frame in the future.
    And when that happens in 3 years we can return to this topic and see who was right or wrong ok? Peace.
    ON a team with Favors, AL and Millsap JV would dissapear with a lot of DNPs. JV was planed as a starter, but hes just getting 22 minutes becausse he plays garbage most of his games.
    JV is coming from the Euroleague Kanter did not play any basketball for a very long time until the hoopsubmit , where he dominated the best players on that draft. Even without playing time, Kanter was the more dominant and the better player.

    Kanter playing NCAA BB, maybe would be the 1rst over all Pick on the 2011 draft. .
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    Al is soft ? he is just a nice guy. Sometimes he avoids contact, just to protect other players from his strength. He is a player, who cares for other players. Trust me dude, they say BIG-AL breaks the neck of a bull, just with his pure hands.
    Why they call him BIG-AL, think of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAKAR View Post
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    ON a team with Favors, AL and Millsap JV would dissapear with a lot of DNPs. JV was planed as a starter, but hes just getting 22 minutes becausse he plays garbage most of his games.
    JV is coming from the Euroleague Kanter did not play any basketball for a very long time until the hoopsubmit , where he dominated the best players on that draft. Even without playing time, Kanter was the more dominant and the better player.

    Kanter playing NCAA BB, maybe would be the 1rst over all Pick on the 2011 draft. .
    I don't know about that, Kyrie Irving has looked pretty solid so far, of course Mirsnickerdoodle Turckan or whatever his name is might disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryselbows View Post
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    I don't know about that, Kyrie Irving has looked pretty solid so far, of course Mirsnickerdoodle Turckan or whatever his name is might disagree.
    Irving is the best player on this draft right know, there is no doubt about it. But, espacially in college Kanter would get monstrous Stats, becausse he was to dominant on his age group back than. Irving and Kanter would enter the Draft as the top prospects and normally in the NBA the teams are choosing the BIG-MAN. Kanter has tremendous talent, I cant remember any other player who was 3rd overall, with a leck of playing time, for around 2 years ?


    Oh man, you are very funny fat ass, IF you have no knowledge about European basketball, than its not my fault. Do you even now where europe is ? Oh man, even my native countrymans from Ruanda are more educated than you. hmmm,BUT, Charles Barkley would disagree, too.

    Charles Barkley: "I thought Enes Kanter was the best player in the draft"
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    Al is soft ? he is just a nice guy. Sometimes he avoids contact, just to protect other players from his strength. He is a player, who cares for other players. Trust me dude, they say BIG-AL breaks the neck of a bull, just with his pure hands.
    Why they call him BIG-AL, think of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAKAR View Post
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    Irving is the best player on this draft right know, there is no doubt about it. But, espacially in college Kanter would get monstrous Stats, becausse he was to dominant on his age group back than. Irving and Kanter would enter the Draft as the top prospects and normally in the NBA the teams are choosing the BIG-MAN. Kanter has tremendous talent, I cant remember any other player who was 3rd overall, with a leck of playing time, for around 2 years ?


    Oh man, you are very funny fat ass, IF you have no knowledge about European basketball, than its not my fault. Do you even now where europe is ? Oh man, even my native countrymans from Ruanda are more educated than you. hmmm,BUT, Charles Barkley would disagree, too.

    Charles Barkley: "I thought Enes Kanter was the best player in the draft"
    Well that escalated quickly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAKAR View Post
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    I cant remember any other player who was 3rd overall, with a leck of playing time, for around 2 years ?

    I can, Derrick Favors

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    And you are lying Kanter was listet 2.08 on this tournament and JV was already listed as 2.13

    http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8j...rID_61806.html


    Valanciunas was more than 2 inches taller on this tournament, but it didnt stop Kanter to make him his wife.

    https://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8...26-63-A-1.html
    Thats nonsense. He was 2.10 at best at that time and that data most be updated as their recent high. He was listed as 2.11 prior draft and during last European Championship in 2011, did he shrunk and then got back to 213cm this year again? Look at pictures from tourney and see who was bigger or stronger 3 years ago and who already was mature and developed. Jonas was long and skinny kid, probably no more then 200lbs at that time, Kanter was a man already. And you somehow forget that they played two games in that tourney vs each other and other game was basically a draw - 20pts vs 22pts.

    Kanter 3 years ago:



    JV 3 years ago:

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    ^^^ Just find a new team. We don't need to follow AK, we don't need to be convinced the Cavs got our pick .. just go the **** away.
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    AKMVP, your comments are full of stupidity, idiocity creamed with ignorance. How can you tell that Enes Kanter, a 20 year old man would stop growing while another 20 years old man (JV) would continue to grow? In one of your comments in this thread, you accused another user of not knowing/understanding science and technology. I suggest that you first go get some understanding of science and biology and then start making claims, which would be hopefully more rational. And the pictures that you attached does not help proving anything at all because I have seen people in their mid 20s yet looking like 17 years old.


    [QUOTE=AKMVP;459877]Thats nonsense. He was 2.10 at best at that time and that data most be updated as their recent high. He was listed as 2.11 prior draft and during last European Championship in 2011, did he shrunk and then got back to 213cm this year again? Look at pictures from tourney and see who was bigger or stronger 3 years ago and who already was mature and developed. Jonas was long and skinny kid, probably no more then 200lbs at that time, Kanter was a man already. And you somehow forget that they played two games in that tourney vs each other and other game was basically a draw - 20pts vs 22pts.


    Yes since you brought up the subject I also checked out the original link sent by the user named Cakar. And if you check both Kanter's and VC's profiles you will realize

    Enes Kanter: 2.08m
    VC : 2.13m

    from

    https://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8...rID_62134.html

    https://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8...rID_61806.html

    How come the organization didn't update Enes's height while they updated VC's? The possibilities are that indeed he was 2.13m at that time, or the european championship organization had bad measurement devices or else they took the data from Russia and russians had bad measurement devices, or as you claim they updated VC's profile while not updating Kanter's?

    I also checked out a few other websites (including wikipedia, in which both show up as 2.11m (6'11), while Enes is 248 lb; JV is 231 lb) and didn't come to a conclusion about the height of VC at that time. I felt the necessity of checking out the profile of Enes Kanter from www.cnn.com and found out that Kanter's height is 2.11m (6'11"), while VC is 2.13 (7'00"). In any case Kanter has the evidence that he grow up from 2.08 to 2.11, while things are a bit commplicated for VC; I can't come to a good conclusion that he is growing; apparently here JV is showing up as 6'11"

    https://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/pl...N_A/index.html

    The weights are subjected to speculations because none of the profiles related to European Championships are including this data. However, from wikipedia and cnn one can make a rough comparison that VC has jumped from 231lb to 258lb while Kanter stays steady at 248lb. Perhaps wikipedia didn't update VC's profile again whereas they updated Kanter's?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_...4%8Di%C5%ABnas

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enes_Kanter

    Please try to post meaningful comments, you are contradicting yourself in most cases and I'd prefer not to respond your other meaningless comments. Nevertheless, I find your comments very entertaining. I guess the other users of this forum are having a lot of fun too...
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    AKMVP, your comments are full of stupidity, idiocity creamed with ignorance. How can you tell that Enes Kanter, a 20 year old man would stop growing while another 20 years old man (JV) would continue to grow? In one of your comments in this thread, you accused another user of not knowing/understanding science and technology. I suggest that you first go get some understanding of science and biology and then start making claims, which would be hopefully more rational. And the pictures that you attached does not help proving anything at all because I have seen people at mid 20s yet looking like 18 years old.


    [QUOTE=AKMVP;459877]Thats nonsense. He was 2.10 at best at that time and that data most be updated as their recent high. He was listed as 2.11 prior draft and during last European Championship in 2011, did he shrunk and then got back to 213cm this year again? Look at pictures from tourney and see who was bigger or stronger 3 years ago and who already was mature and developed. Jonas was long and skinny kid, probably no more then 200lbs at that time, Kanter was a man already. And you somehow forget that they played two games in that tourney vs each other and other game was basically a draw - 20pts vs 22pts.


    Yes since you brought up the subject I also checked out the original link sent by the user named Cakar. And if you check both Kanter's and VC's profiles you will realize

    Enes Kanter: 2.08m
    VC : 2.13m

    https://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8...rID_61806.html

    https://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8...rID_62134.html

    How come the organization didn't update Enes's height while they updated VC's? The possibilities are that indeed he was 2.13m at that time, or the european championship organization had bad measurement devices or else they took the data from Russia and russians had bad measurement devices, or the euro organization updated VC's profile whereas they didn't update Kanter's as you claim?

    I also checked out a few other websites (including wikipedia, in which both show up as 2.11m (6'11)) and didn't come to a conclusion about the height of VC at that time. I felt the necessity of checking out the profile of Enes Kanter from www.cnn.com and found out that Kanter's height is 2.11m (6'11") now, while VC is 2.13 (7'00"). Kanter has the evidence that he grow up from 2.08 to 2.11 (or steady at 2.11 perhaps if you discard euro league data), while things are a bit commplicated for VC; I can't come to a good conclusion that he is growing. Apparently, he is showing up as 6'11" here:

    https://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/pl...N_A/index.html

    It seems like the euro organizations do not include the weights and this is subject to speculations. However, from the wikipedia pages and the nba profileson cnn; one can see that VC jumps from 248lb to 257lb while Enes Kanter stays steady at 248lb. Perhaps they didn't update the profile of VC in wikipedia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_...4%8Di%C5%ABnas

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enes_Kanter

    https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ba...899/index.html

    https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ba...886/index.html

    Based on cnn's profile, I can see that VC has already a grown up to man's weight and height yet he plays like a soft garbage player in Raptors. Please try to post meaningful comments, you are contradicting yourself mostly anyway and I'd prefer not to respond to your other meaningless claims. Nevertheless, I find your comments very entertaining. I guess the other users of this forum are having a lot of fun too...

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