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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreFeasts View Post
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    patently false
    Armstrong never failed a drug test so until he admited that he was juicing it was all rumor and unsubstantiated. So why draw the line with going after just one guy with no proof? Seems pretty hypocriticla to me.
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    unsubstantiated - wrong
    draw line - wrong
    hyopoc - wrong

    besides which , your entire post misses the points of my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreFeasts View Post
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    unsubstantiated - wrong
    draw line - wrong
    hyopoc - wrong

    besides which , your entire post misses the points of my post.
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    I was not referring to you specifically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
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    I guess I'm in the minority but I don't give a **** if he juiced. The dude overcame cancer and then won the tour de france several times in a row. What was it, like 7 times or something?

    You mean if I stick a needle in my ass I can win the tour de france? No? Of course not.

    Today's steroids were last century's vitamins and exercise equipment and machines. Science has been trying to enhance physical performance for centuries. Why it's suddenly considered taboo is beyond me.

    The dude overcame cancer, and then won the tour de france, like 7 times. We're seriously condemning him for juicing up? Even though everyone else was juicing up too? Why?

    Let me see anyone on this board, or reporting on this story in the media, win the tour de france even once. Juice up all you want and tell me how it instantly made you superman, lol.
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    Not quite so sure about McGuire & Sosa though. Not sure how I feel about the steroids in baseball and the records they set while doping.
    But I do think Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame. I know it's not really related, but still.
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    Cheating might be somewhat forgiveable.The lying and suing & trying to destroy people who were telling the truth makes him a huge a-hole.

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    I think their actions damages the reputation of their sport. However I think any involvement by government thru court cases, hearings...is idiotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenHarris View Post
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    hey franklin bro are u really the dude that wrote that 1 article (bout al jefferson)? u never answered me in that thread
    i think franklin has me on ignore bros. somebody quote this so he sees it.
    he is not your bro, guy

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    The problem with the "just let every one do it" position is that apparently not everyone gets an equal boost from PEDs. While there have been no scientific studies done, the anecdotal evidence strongly suggests people react differently when a PED is introduced into their system. Some people get a huge boost, some get a negligible boost. In a recent Sports Illustrated Article, one US Cyclist who claims he was pressured to use EPO by Armstrong said he didn't get any benefit from them at all.

    So while Armstrong is clearly a world class cyclist, he may not be the best one - just the one whose body reacts the best to drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candrew View Post
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    The problem with the "just let every one do it" position is that apparently not everyone gets an equal boost from PEDs. While there have been no scientific studies done, the anecdotal evidence strongly suggests people react differently when a PED is introduced into their system. Some people get a huge boost, some get a negligible boost. In a recent Sports Illustrated Article, one US Cyclist who claims he was pressured to use EPO by Armstrong said he didn't get any benefit from them at all.

    So while Armstrong is clearly a world class cyclist, he may not be the best one - just the one whose body reacts the best to drugs.
    The same can be said of actual physical training. Some guys get ripped really quick or are naturally ripped without even working out, others have to work their ass off to get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchJazzer View Post
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    he is not your bro, guy
    why do u say that?

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