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    Quote Originally Posted by GVC View Post
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    Uh...Gortat+Dudley > Turner+Hawes
    Yeah, I know. Zulu posted yesterday that Philly never would trade those for an expiring Al + one of our picks, but now wants Gortat and Dudley for the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedda Gambler View Post
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    So trading Al for Turner and Hawes is an insane idea, but getting Gortat and Dudley for the same is reasonable? Jewsus, man...
    Don't get me wrong I'd love to have Turner a d Hawes...

    My argument is that the is no way Philly would do that trade!!

    Turner's 2013 SEASON TOTALS

    MIN 3PM REB AST STL BLK PTS
    36.2 0.7 6.7 4.5 1.0 0.3 13.7

    No way Philly gives him and Hawes up for a guy who can walk next year...

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    It would be like the Jazz trading Paul and Hayward for Josh smith...

    Jazz would never do it Cuz it doesn't ensure us that we'd have josh smith next year and we could end up giving Hayward away for nothing!!

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    Steve Luhm @sluhm about 22 minutes ago
    By the way, Paul Millsap and Al Jefferson are attending practice and, presumably, participating. So no trades this morning, at least.


    Steve Luhm @sluhm about 29 minutes ago
    Jazz GM talking to reporters after practice. A little unusual. Let's see what he has to say.


    Steve Luhm @sluhm about 24 minutes ago
    Lindsey on trade talk: Says activity level is normal. "We have a job to do."


    Steve Luhm @sluhm about 21 minutes ago
    Lindsey: Any decisions that are made are "weighted for 12-24 months out."


    Bill Oram @tribjazz 4 minutes ago
    LIndsey says Jazz are being cautious with Hayward's injury, won't jeopardize 600 games for the benefit of 6.


    Jody Genessy @DJJazzyJody 1 minute ago
    Jazz will continue to be "disciplined to the threshold" of player flexibility Kevin O'Connor built, Lindsey said.


    Bill Oram @tribjazz 3 minutes ago
    Lindsey was asked if Mo Williams could be the point guard of the future. He said, "Yes he could."


    Bill Oram @tribjazz 4 minutes ago
    Lindsey said " there's a natural tension" between winning now and building for the future.


    Bill Oram @tribjazz 3 minutes ago
    Lindsey was effusive in praise for Tyrone Corbin, repeated that he is the right coach for this team.


    Bill Oram @tribjazz 2 minutes ago
    Lindsey has not been shy about saying the Jazz are in a "rebuilding process." But playoffs clearly still a priority.
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    no way this could happen, but it would make me happy.

    https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=al94kha trade to ESPN
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
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    no way this could happen, but it would make me happy.

    https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=al94kha trade to ESPN
    5-big rotation?

    Also fixed the link for you.
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mellow again.

    Good find on the rumors Mellow.

    Noticed he said Mo "could" be the PG of the future not that he "will" be. Saddened at the hype for Corbin. I have not seen what they are seeing. Glad to see the veiled reference to Hayward being a long term Jazz man.
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    The most telling line of the tweet updates was:
    "Jazz are in a "rebuilding process."

    Big Al and Sap both can't be in their future plans. If Lindsey believed that they were the core then I don't think he would have used the rebuilding line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolution 9 View Post
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    The most telling line of the tweet updates was:
    "Jazz are in a "rebuilding process."

    Big Al and Sap both can't be in their future plans. If Lindsey believed that they were the core then I don't think he would have used the rebuilding line.
    Yes, the Jazz are clearly rebuilding, that is why we routinely see the young guys playing ahead of the many veterans who will be FA in July.

    Yes that was sarcasm. Yes, I believe the Jazz's biggest problem this season is that they have not adequately conveyed their goals, mission to the fan base, and that has lead to fan confusion and caused the fans to 'check-out'. In recent weeks I have noticed more effort by KOL to reach out and try to explain what Jazz are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
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    Yes, the Jazz are clearly rebuilding, that is why we routinely see the young guys playing ahead of the many veterans who will be FA in July.

    Yes that was sarcasm. Yes, I believe the Jazz's biggest problem this season is that they have not adequately conveyed their goals, mission to the fan base, and that has lead to fan confusion and caused the fans to 'check-out'. In recent weeks I have noticed more effort by KOL to reach out and try to explain what Jazz are doing.
    Agreed. We are at the crossroads. It seems that the majority of fans here want to go in a different direction than we are seeing on the court. If that is the case why aren't the young guys getting more time?
    I'm curious to know what is being said behind closed doors.
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    To me Lindsey's line was the first real peek into possibly what they are thinking.
    If he was happy with Sap and Big Al I think he might say something like re-signing them is priority number 1, and we want to build around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncster View Post
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    Hayward is unlikely to leave. More money here and if we make the playoffs next year, which we will, he will be satisfied and hungry to win more here. He is making those statements to let the FO know he wants to win this season.
    This is going to be cute.

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    ^^^ Chuckles.

    In unrelated news....

    David Locke @Lockedonsports about 13 minutes ago
    on The Beat at 4 p.m. MNT on @NBATV with Jazz VP Kevin O'Connor!

    If one of you fine people is able to watch, would you be so kind as to post a summary. Rep and good karma will be your reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
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    ^^^ Chuckles.

    In unrelated news....

    David Locke @Lockedonsports about 13 minutes ago
    on The Beat at 4 p.m. MNT on @NBATV with Jazz VP Kevin O'Connor!

    If one of you fine people is able to watch, would you be so kind as to post a summary. Rep and good karma will be your reward.
    Yes please.
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