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    Affordable Care?

    A few years ago, in the dead of night, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi strong-armed a bunch of stupid Senators and Congressmen to pass the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, without giving them time to read the nearly three thousand pages of text. Pelosi said that we have to pass it so we can find out what it is. Since then, thousands of bureaucrats have used their new power to write millions, yes millions of new regulations that are presumed to be authorized under the Obamacare open ended powers granted to them.


    Nobody knows what Obamacare is, yet.


    And we have been told by our Supreme Masters, the Supreme Court that imagines they have all the power in the universe because they are, in fact Supreme, that the Senators and Congressman who passed the law claiming it was not a new tax, were acting within their powers because they were just lying, and that it is "Constitutional" because, in fact, it is a tax.


    So this thread will deal with it in terms of whether it is actually "Affordable" or actually "care" of some kind, or whether it is George Orwell gone amok.


    Does anyone know what Obamacare is, yet?

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    I do not know the ins and outs. No one does.

    However there are somethings int he bill I do like. Like no preexisting conditions. I also like that I can cover my kids till they are 26 or something like that. In my opinion if I am willing to pay the premium I should be able to add whoever I want.
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    Get over it already. You lost. Years from now when Obamacare is accepted as the law of the land without giving second thought, and universally seen as vital to the social and economic fabric of our country as, say, medicare and social security, you and your ilk will be seen in hindsight as the obstacles to social progress that you are. So, join your social conservative brethren as yet again, for the umpteenth time and for all other social and progressive reforms, you find yourself on the wrong side of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy eat jazz View Post
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    Get over it already. You lost. Years from now when Obamacare is accepted as the law of the land without giving second thought, and universally seen as vital to the social and economic fabric of our country as, say, medicare and social security, you and your ilk will be seen in hindsight as the obstacles to social progress that you are. So, join your social conservative brethren as yet again, for the umpteenth time and for all other social and progressive reforms, you find yourself on the wrong side of history.
    The sheer amount of egotistical, self righteous ******** in this post is absolutely fantastic. It must have taken years to get to this point. I admire a man with dedication. I am repping that bad ass piece of junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
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    The sheer amount of egotistical, self righteous ******** in this post is absolutely fantastic. It must have taken years to get to this point. I admire a man with dedication. I am repping that bad ass piece of junk.
    lol. i loved his social progress garbage part the most lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
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    The sheer amount of egotistical, self righteous ******** in this post is absolutely fantastic. It must have taken years to get to this point. I admire a man with dedication. I am repping that bad ass piece of junk.
    Oh gee, not the neg rep. Please no. Dear me. How can I go on???


    Like I give a crap. Neg rep away. I stand 100% by what I say. Social conservatives like Babe are consistently on the wrong side of history and social progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy eat jazz View Post
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    Oh gee, not the neg rep. Please no. Dear me. How can I go on???


    Like I give a crap. Neg rep away. I stand 100% by what I say. Social conservatives like Babe are consistently on the wrong side of history and social progress.
    This is a hard fail. Why you ask? Well, I didn't neg rep you, I pos repped you. But nothing you have posted in this thread has anything to do with facts or reality so why start now, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoked View Post
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    This is a hard fail. Why you ask? Well, I didn't neg rep you, I pos repped you. But nothing you have posted in this thread has anything to do with facts or reality so why start now, right?
    And I was supposed to infer that you positive repped me from the content of your post?

    Not anything to do with reality?

    Ok, I’m curious, please tell me, just to take a few examples, which of the following progressive social/economic reforms social conservatives, as a group, supported:

    13th Amendment
    17th Amendment
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    Civil Rights Act
    Social Security Act
    Voting Rights Act
    Anti-child labor laws
    Food labeling laws
    Anti-trust laws
    Americans with Disabilities Act
    Fair Work Regulations
    Parental leave laws
    Anti-discrimination laws

    There’s plenty more examples.

    Social conservatives have fought every single progressive social/economic reform since the dawn of time. Babe is just one more in an endless stream of people fighting the march of progress and history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy eat jazz View Post
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    And I was supposed to infer that you positive repped me from the content of your post?

    Not anything to do with reality?

    Ok, I’m curious, please tell me, just to take a few examples, which of the following progressive social/economic reforms social conservatives, as a group, supported:

    13th Amendment
    17th Amendment
    19th Amendment
    Civil Rights Act
    Social Security Act
    Voting Rights Act
    Anti-child labor laws
    Food labeling laws
    Anti-trust laws
    Americans with Disabilities Act
    Fair Work Regulations
    Parental leave laws
    Anti-discrimination laws

    There’s plenty more examples.

    Social conservatives have fought every single progressive social/economic reform since the dawn of time. Babe is just one more in an endless stream of people fighting the march of progress and history.
    That right there is the problem. You are not supposed to infer or assume anything. You are actually supposed to find out what the hell you are talking about before you do reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy eat jazz View Post
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    And I was supposed to infer that you positive repped me from the content of your post?

    Not anything to do with reality?

    Ok, I’m curious, please tell me, just to take a few examples, which of the following progressive social/economic reforms social conservatives, as a group, supported:

    13th Amendment
    17th Amendment
    19th Amendment
    Civil Rights Act
    Social Security Act
    Voting Rights Act
    Anti-child labor laws
    Food labeling laws
    Anti-trust laws
    Americans with Disabilities Act
    Fair Work Regulations
    Parental leave laws
    Anti-discrimination laws

    There’s plenty more examples.

    Social conservatives have fought every single progressive social/economic reform since the dawn of time. Babe is just one more in an endless stream of people fighting the march of progress and history.
    Whether or not Obamacare is "universally seen as vital to the social and economic fabric of our country" remains to be seen. Being on the wrong side of history is not necessarily a bad thing. Case in point, the Social Security Act that you tout as a vital program. I would much rather keep my money and do what I want with it instead of loaning it to the government to fart around with until I retire.

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