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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
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    Name me ten guys in the NBA that can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
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    Paul GEORGE

    GEORGE Gervin

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    GEORGE Karl could figure a defensive scheme out.

    GEORGE Mikan

    GEORGE Hill

    GEORGE McCloud

    Any player from GEORGEtown.


    I can go all day big fella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
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    Paul GEORGE

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    GEORGE Karl could figure a defensive scheme out.

    GEORGE Mikan

    GEORGE Hill

    GEORGE McCloud

    Any player from GEORGEtown.


    I can go all day big fella.

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    You are a narcist George. On a high level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
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    Name me ten guys in the NBA that can.
    ok, how worse would he be compared to Marvin guarding them.
    i may quote myself from other treads... sue me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceJL View Post
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    ok, how worse would he be compared to Marvin guarding them.
    Marvin would be better when Marvin is engaged. Otherwise I'd give it to Ilyasova.
    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLI baby View Post
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    Ilyasova posts here from time to time, though I doubt he'd give a completely honest answer on his own defensive abilities.
    Ilyasova is a stretch PF who can play the SF for limited time (He played SF in his rookie year)and his lateral quickness is not good enough for defending the most of SFs so big line up does not work for him but still he's exactly good fit for Jazz to make the open 3's, perfect PnR and Pick and pop player, good rebounder, hard nosed, hustle player who takes charges and unselfish team oriented team mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illyasova View Post
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    Ilyasova is a stretch PF who can play the SF for limited time (He played SF in his rookie year)and his lateral quickness is not good enough for defending the most of SFs so big line up does not work for him but still he's exactly good fit for Jazz to make the open 3's, perfect PnR and Pick and pop player, good rebounder, hard nosed, hustle player who takes charges and unselfish team oriented team mate.
    I actually think he would be great in a big line up for 5 to 10 minutes a game. If you have Hayward, Favors and Kanter as 3 of the other 4 besides Ilyasova, that is a defensive line up that can hide his lateral deficiencies.
    Cy is a Baker, he doesn't work fast food. Don't make that mistake, he doesn't like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
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    Name me ten guys in the NBA that can.
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    ok, how worse would he be compared to Marvin guarding them.
    Seriously???? You guys think Marvin is a bad defender? Get your eyes checked.
    Here, yesterday Marvin gaurding Batum-
    Batum- 5 points, 3 assists, 6 rebounds, 3 TO's, 2-7 in 38 minutes.

    The opponent SF's PER is 13.7 when gaurded by Marvin. The average PER of the top 50 SF's is 15.04.
    When Marvin's on the court, the Jazz are 3 points better defensively. (106.3 vs. 109.7)

    https://www.82games.com/1213/12UTA11.HTM

    He may be invisible, but he's a stellar defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangello View Post
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    I actually think he would be great in a big line up for 5 to 10 minutes a game. If you have Hayward, Favors and Kanter as 3 of the other 4 besides Ilyasova, that is a defensive line up that can hide his lateral deficiencies.
    For 5 to 10 min in a game lots of stretch 4's can play SF but he's not a SF and does not have quickness advantage to make dribble or chance to work on perimeter with his ball handling against SFs. His big advantage is none of PFs can chase him after the screens on the perimeter so he can shoot over any where on the court when his feet set or move to the rim that's why he's so efficient on PnR or PnP. Also his second jump is so faster than most of PFs so his offensive rebounding is key for him to find some easy points.
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    actually I like this trade. illyosava would be a great addition to this team. I see him more of a sf who can play the 4. Hayward would need to shift to sg. and burks foye, Marvin and kanter become the bench. I could live with that.

    if the jazz could do this with out giving up a draft pick. draft the best pg and the a big I would be ecstatic.

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