Originally Posted by midnight_hwy
"Excuse me...are you the singing bush?"
02-11-2013 02:53 PM
If I had to make two changes to the starting unit it would be Carroll for Marvin and Favors for Millsap.
WHO KNOWS IF HE CAN DO THOSE THINGS.
Originally Posted by CitizenofCapua
HE IS THE FRIGGIN 5TH OPTION
to do those things he needs the ball.
his job on this team is dump the ball down to al and stand somehwere to jack up a shot when the shotclock is down and al passed it out
I've seen enough to decide that he cant do these things properly and not like he is not getting any touches to prove me wrong, or showing some flashes that he has it.
Originally Posted by DutchJazzer
Yeah there's a lot of different ways to look at developing players.
Originally Posted by SiroMar
You say that Favors doesn't have a great offensive game outside the post but I've seen him getting adding new things into his arsenal almost game by game. He's passing better off the post, his touch around the rim and ability to use the left hand...all these are things that are improving. If you talk to any New Jersey fan, they'll agree.
It makes sense to me to get him to develop multiple skills even if they're not as great as his strengths because once teams scout the strengths, then all you're left with are your other skills.
As an example, look at Dwight- He didn't develop skills, his strength was overpowering his opponent in the post and scoring.
Now all teams have to do is foul him or get him past the key and he doesn't have anything else to go to.
Anyways, I hope that's how the Jazz are developing the youngsters and that that's why they only see time against 2nd tier players. Otherwise, we've had a stupid coach and management system all along.
Downgrade to Windows 7, even Vista is better than 8. I just got a laptop and am very dissatisfied.
Originally Posted by carolinajazz
At this point, Marvin for expiring(s) and two 2nds sounds extremely appealing. So did hiring me two years ago though too. So I'm not sure what to think.
Averages can be deceiving. Yes, a couple of games he'll get 10 or 15 shots. Then he'll have between 2-4 for several games. He needs to consistently get 7-8 shots and when he's extremely hot, you keep feeding him. All you really need to do is have Jefferson shoot 3-4 fewer shots, have Foye control his chucking and pass the ball occasionally to Marvin.
Originally Posted by HipHopAnonymous
I agree with you there. Marvin should come off the bench where he'll get more chances to score. Carroll is better at rebounding Al's misses.
Originally Posted by Stoked
Jefferson just needs to be limited to 10 attempts a game and he probably would improve his efficiency. Why have we anointed him the one to shoot at will anyways.
Originally Posted by Weezur
I don't get all the Corbin tantrums when he has explicitly said he is trying to bring certain young guys along, & these guys have shown dramatic improvements over their raw baselines. We will look back in a few years hearing these kids praising Corbin's role in pushing them toward All Star status.
Put some respeck in my paycheck
Is it possible the plan is too tank NEXT year so we can add wiggins or Jabari to our young group? Seems somewhat smart.
Get rid of Al, Mo, Marvin, and most importantly, Hayward have significant gains in their game.
Yes - at times Marvin is invisible, yes - his shooting percentages are a little lower than you would hope, and yes - his production is not matching the $15.8 mil the Jazz will likely be paying him over the next 2 seasons.
That said - I can't find a single reason to fault his play because he has one of the toughest roles (or lack thereof) on the team.
1) He plays the first 10 minutes of the game and when Hayward's healthy it's common if he never sees the floor again.
2) The Jazz will run maybe 1 pin-down or curl for him near the outset and after that his points are limited to transition opportunities (which have declined since Mo went out) and spot-up 3's w/the shotclock winding down.
3) For the most part he's played solid defense and hasn't appeared to sulk or complain about his role, shots or minutes.
He's not Shane Battier but the Jazz are trying to use him in that role - and that's really asking alot.
No doubt in my mind you put him out there w/Deron, Boozer & Memo and his shooting percentages shoot up. With the group he plays I really think he's playing as well as he could possibly play given the circumstances.
I was against acquiring him because of his salary but I'm actually hoping he opts-in (he likely will) because w/so few players under contract - his salary could be a valuable piece in a trade that the Jazz could facilitate (such as a situation where Utah needs to include someone/something in a trade & Marvin gives them an alternative to including one of the core-4) between now and this summer because of all their 2013 cap-space.
"It's a loss. It's one loss on our home floor that we aren't happy with." -Ty Corbin, 12/26/12.
"It's one loss." -Ty Corbin, 1/11/13.
"Whether you lose by one or by 45 like we did tonight, it's one loss." -Ty Corbin, 1/28/13.
"It's one loss." -Ty Corbin, 4/3/13.
It's disappointing any time you don't make the playoffs." -Ty Corbin, 4/17/13.
Tyrone Corbin is still the head coach, yes.
Originally Posted by SiroMar
Tonight DMC played most of his minutes with the first unit and we all saw his contribution. So making an excuse for Marvin about his passiveness like "he is looking bad cause he gets his burn with the first unit and especially with Big Al" is sounds even funnier right now.