12 killed during mas shooting including police officer who had a gun in California bar.

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  1. MVP

    MVP Well-Known Member

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    https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/california-shooting-intl/index.html

    So good guy with a gun is not enough apparently. American solution? Need more good guys with a guns!!!
    Response from Trump? "God bless all of the victims and families of the victims. Thank you to Law Enforcement"... WTF what kind of law enforcement??? The only law enforcement you idiots need is a simple gun control!
     
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  2. DutchJazzer

    DutchJazzer Well-Known Member

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    #orangemanbad
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  3. ONE LOVE

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  4. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    Sad. Sad. Sad. This needs to stop really.
     
  5. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Any motive figured out yet?
     
  6. MVP

    MVP Well-Known Member

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    Former marine with PTSD. In any country with proper gun laws people like that would not have legal access to any gun. And yet in USA:

    Mental health officials were called to his home this year
    Ventura county sheriff Geoff Dean said sheriff’s deputies were called to Long’s home in Newbury Park, five miles west of Thousand Oaks, in April 2018. They found Long “somewhat irate, acting a little irrationally”, Dean said. The deputies called in mental health specialists. The specialists decided Long’s mental state did not require him to be detained for further assessment.

    Long was a former marine
    Dean said Long was a veteran of the US marine corps. The 28-year-old was on active duty with the marines from August 2008 to March 2013, CNN reported, citing the Department of Defense. The marine corps told news organizations that Long served in Afghanistan between November 2010 and June 2011. He was a machine gunner.

    The gun was legally purchased
    Authorities said the .45 caliber Glock handgun used in the shooting was legally purchased. But Dean said Long had used an extended magazine – illegal in California – during the shooting, which would enable the weapon to fire more rounds before needing to be reloaded.
     
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  7. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    Yeah when you have an intent to kill and the means to do so easily, even sheriff arriving on the scene was not enough. Does this put a question mark over the notion that a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun? Maybe you can eventually but how many would need to die before the bad guy with a gun is stopped?

    The sheriff was due to retire soon too. So sad.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-deputy-ron-helus/index.html
     
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  8. ONE LOVE

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    What would have stopped this incident today? Everyone going to that bar bringing their own guns to defend themselves?

    Do you need to bring a gun to McDonald's as well now to protect yourself just in case?

    Where does it end?
     
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  9. Stars Fan

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    The Borderline Bar & Grill is about 2 miles from my daughter's place in T.O.. She used to go there quite a bit... when we heard of this tragedy, we were afraid she was there. We soon got a text from her saying she was safe. Most terrifying moments I could imagine. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of everyone involved. But that can't be enough. This type of mass murder must not be allowed to continue to be the price we pay for gun ownership rights.

    #timesup

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  10. Stars Fan

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    And the apologists begin their bs ...

    Too soon Dutch, too soon

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  11. One Brow

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    So much for waiting 24 hours before making political points.
     
  12. MVP

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    the ignore feature is oh so good in case of Dutch. Never need to worry about his BS anymore.
     
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  13. ONE LOVE

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    Damn, that's a scary moment for you. Can't even imagine what that must have felt like.
     
  14. Engorged On Unborn Gore

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    I feel bad for cops. By the time the next decade is over, half of them will be dead. And the other half will be so militarized that they won't even recognize themselves.

    I feel worse for victims of mass shootings, though. We've had 307 mass shootings this year, and PTSD is quickly becoming the context of life in the US.
     
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  15. Zombie

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    Right on cue... IMG_20181108_122205.jpg
     
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  16. Stars Fan

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    Small piece of what people go through who are actually involved in these things. It did give me some perspective into the horror of it.

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  17. The Thriller

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    Deadliest mass shooting in 11 days!

    Thoughts and prayers!

    Thoughts and prayers for these people. And for those who will be shot up in some church or school next week.

    Sad
     
  18. seattlejazzfan

    seattlejazzfan Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't CA have about the strictest gun control in the country?
     
  19. seattlejazzfan

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    Op did that.
     
  20. The Thriller

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    Nothing that a quick drive to lax state like Nevada, Arizona, or Utah wouldn’t cure. In some states it’s harder to vote than to build an arsenal.
     
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