2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by White Chocolate, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Some of us do!
     
  2. Political Jazz Fan

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    I'll take Jefferson and Madison over you any day...
     
  3. One Brow

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    You like the electoral college well enough, but you hate all the checks on the Presidency Jefferson/Madison worked hard to ensure. No one is fooled by you.
     
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  4. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Well, the issue is that if the electoral college system is abolished, then states don't mean anything and political power is nationalized.
     
  5. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Jefferson and Madison would NEVER take you.

    Read their writings. I have some books I could lend you if you really wanted to do that.

    You have nothing in common with them.
     
  6. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    Senators are still elected by state. Representatives are still restricted to a single state.

    Could you explain what you mean by "nationalized" here? How is popular vote more "nationalized" with a popular vote, and why is this an issue?
     
  7. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    The electoral college system ensures that individual states, including smaller states, have an impact on the election of the President and are not just overridden by large states. The creation of states' rights and the decentralization of power among those states is part and parcel to the electoral process that the founders envisioned.
     
  8. gandalfe

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    Worse than rape?

    Your morals are seriously messed up.
     
  9. gandalfe

    gandalfe Well-Known Member

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    Fixed it for you.
     
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  10. gandalfe

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    I believe it was 10 blowjobs, but he only orgasmed once. Make of that what you will.

    He was impeached, but not removed from office. Same as Trump.
     
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  11. gandalfe

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    No.
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    I would have more to say on these to clarify, but...
     
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  12. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    I provided proof that all of these happened. If you choose to ignore it, that's on you. Everything I asked is 100% factually a yes.
     
  13. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    It's really not surprising though. When the FBI openly admits it illegally spied on Trump advisors that you all would all say otherwise.
     
  14. Political Jazz Fan

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    LOL
     
  15. Political Jazz Fan

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  16. JazzyFresh

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    Two of 4 warrants letting FBI spy on ex-Trump aide Carter Page were not valid, says DOJ

    In December, a scathing report by the Justice Department's inspector general found that the FBI's applications to spy on Page were rife with "factual misstatements and omissions," and in the weeks since, the FISA court has demanded an accounting from the Justice Department on how that happened and what is being done about it
     
  17. AverageJoe

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    Thanks for correcting me. I'm not a presidential historian. For some reason I thought he may have resigned but I must have been thinking of nixon. The end of his term was impaired though after that was it not? I think of his tenure being boom times on most fronts but maybe you can enlighten me on the finer points.
     
  18. JazzyFresh

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    The FBI admits it... But gandalfe and Joe say the FBI is lying lol
     
  19. JazzyFresh

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    The inspector general, Michael Horowitz, found no evidence that political bias played a role in the opening of the Russia probe, which failed to establish that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. But he also said he found no satisfactory alternative explanation when it came to the lies and omissions that led a court to wrongly authorize spying on Page, who was not charged with a crime.
     
  20. JazzyFresh

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    In an email to her daughter shortly after the attack, Hillary Clinton blamed it on terrorism. But when I saw

    Hillary Clinton at Sean’s coffin ceremony two days later, she looked me squarely in the eye and told me a video was responsible.
     

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