2020 Presidential Election

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  1. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    A popular vote removes the power from the states entirely, placing it with the individual citizens. California's citizens don't vote as a block, they vote as individuals. Same for the citizens of Texas, Hawaii, and Wyoming. Far from being nationalized, the power to elect a President is decentralized. Conservative in California now cast votes that matter, as do liberals in Wyoming. The founders also envisioned power being retained by citizens and voters individually.
     
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  2. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    Except, every piece of proof you offered does not support the claim you intended it to support.
     
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  3. JazzyFresh

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    "I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me," he told NBC News in an exclusive interview.
     
  4. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    You you provide of video of her saying that? In the one you offered, she said something different.
     
  5. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    I call BS. Everything I sad is 100% true.
     
  6. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    I have always thought of the president being a representative of the nation.
    So it makes sense that the nation should decide on the president rather than a handful of swing States.

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  7. JazzyFresh

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    Your just going to call her a liar anyways.
     
  8. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Only a handful of swing states, regardless of size, have an impact on the election.


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  9. One Brow

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    I don't expect to reason a person out of their religious beliefs.
     
  10. One Brow

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    HRC? Sure, she was a liar. I'm just asking for evidence of this one lie you claim she made.
     
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  12. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    This.
    I for one think it would be cool if my vote actually counted.
    Weird that some people prefer a system that makes their (and millions of others) vote not count.

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  13. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    If you feel this way, then go ahead an add abolishing the electoral college to your list of grievances.
     
  14. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    So NOW what a person says is testimonial fact. When it go with your preconceived thoughts.

    When someone simply gets direct quoted about something Trump did suddenly it means nothing to you.

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  15. fishonjazz

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    I think it was probably on the list long ago

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  16. One Brow

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    The woman who also said, "I blame Hillary Clinton personally for the death of my son." She's an impartial observer?

    What's really funny is that if Clinton had been giving out details on the attack before everything was certain, you same people would have been criticizing her for that, as well. As long as you can criticize Clinton, nothing else matters on these issues.
     
  17. One Brow

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    "Grievances"? Really? I apreciate that you can't make a serious argument to support you position, so you need to trivialize other positions.

    I'm not even sure if I have a position on the Electoral College. It stopped doing what it was supposed to do by the election of John Adams, but we've gotten by just fine with it.
     
  18. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    The states that qualify as "swing states" change from time to time, however. Last year, you could argue that the "swing states" included Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and North Carolina, as well as Ohio and Florida. Labeling a state as a "swing state" is really just a political analyst concluding that other states are very likely to vote with one party or another going into an election.
     
  19. checkbookdoc

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    I am unsure what my appropriate political label is. Can anyone suggest websites where I can answer questions that help me know what term I can use which generally encapsulates my political ideology?
     
  20. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    I did make a serious argument to support the electoral college system. The country, as a whole, is comprised of 50 states, each of which has sovereign rights in the process of electing the President. If you remove those rights, you remove the meaning of states in the electoral process. That's apparent.

    If you want to abolish the electoral system, and you regard my response to you as trivializing, then so be it. You can react however you like.
     

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