2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by White Chocolate, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. babe

    babe Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday, Breitbart had an hour or more program on Maryann Williamson, as they are going down the list discussing all the dem candidates. The guest expert was a guy from Eagle Forum. Someone wo knows for sure. While noting that she raised her hand for freebies for illegals and such, at citizen/taxpayer expense, they nevertheless noted some positive things.

    I never knew word one until then.... they said she wrote a book "Return to Love" and has been an Oprah frequent guest, is touted as something of New Age guru, who has run a charity for Aids patients for twenty plus years. serving like a million meals to housebound or quarantined folks.

    They said she has literally her own lane in the race, with no competition, and a pretty sure 15% who would view her positively. Bound to survive the next two debates until the field is narrowed to six or so, and that she'll be pushing 10% then. A lot of people everywhere are willing to turn out for her.

    They said she could be the Dem Trump..... the contender who wows the ordinary folks by being well-behaved..... uhhhmmm..... never mind. But at least the one who speaks the lingo of the ordinary folks.

    Some conservative fill-ins on XM125 have brought in quotes to make jokes about.....much like major media made jokes about Trump.
     
  2. babe

    babe Well-Known Member

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    Biden is a bitter pill. I've been thinking Hillary might ride into the Convention on her broom and sweep the whole shebang. Old dreams never die, they just drift off into mumbletown. Biden has had too much common cause with the Chinese and other world wonks, and he is senile to boot.

    Here is Biden confused about a Trump comment where Trump noted that while the main protests over the statue had good people on both sides, there was no room for the racists or supremacists.



    I'd add, there is reason to question whether the few "White Supremacists" or racists were genuine humans with their own views, or merely paid hacks bought right along with Antifa hacks to instigate civil disturbance and media psy-op propaganda.

    I mean, really. Where do these violent creeps come from. I've never seen anything like them in real life.

    Of course, I'm a softie. I imagine there might be some hapless humans who have heartfelt beliefs like antifa or White Supremacists. I just don't think they know how to do psy-op stunts for the media, like orgtanized and paid workers can. I mean, clearly, not all cylinders firing in the right sequence to believe some things.

    So here is Steve Cortez.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...r_u_steve_cortes_the_charlottesville_lie.html
     
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  3. Gameface

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    I've heard other clueless people speculate that as well.
     
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  4. babe

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    Probably. A lot of dems still cling to their nostalgic glory days of yore. I mean, I didn't make that up outta thin air. I read it into all the grief when Hillary lost. She's the Dream of Socialism personified, I'd say....... lol.
     
  5. The Thriller

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    Oh no!

    Biden! A decent human being who’s a pretty decent politician! So scary! What would we ever do?

    He’s not my first choice. But let’s not act like his opponent is FDR or Lincoln.

    1. Is Biden a terrible human waste garbage dump, like trump?

    2. Does Biden encourage foreign government to intervene in our elections on his behalf?

    3. Will Biden spend all his time trash talking on twitter instead of managing the executive?

    Those are my standards, that’s how low they’ve become. He’s definitely qualified.

    I personally agree with warren far more on politics. I still think she’ll get the nomination. However, I hope Democrats understand that absolutely nothing she or Sanders are proposing will happen as long as McConnell is the Senate majority leader and the filibuster is still intact.

    If Biden is the nominee and you want to get rid of trump then he’s your best chance. Biden will be at worst, a decent and unremarkable one term president. At least he’ll rid us of agent orange and we can finally begin to rebuild the federal government. The last two republican presidents were trump and Bush II. Does anyone honestly think Biden will suck nearly as much as they?
     
  6. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    I think the Dems are looking for a viable alternative to Biden. He's a walking gaffe and throwback to the Democratic Party that Trump defeated. And although Biden is a senior statesman, he just isn't a very strong, compelling candidate. A Trump v. Biden run-off would be a repeat of Trump attacking everything that happened under the Obama administration.

    Bernie Sanders has a base of fervent supporters, but I don't think it would be enough to win a general election. He hasn't yet come across as being strong on the economy and foreign policy, and his angry, ornery personality gets old pretty fast.

    Elizabeth Warren is an alternative, but her policies are just pretty far left to win the centrists and independent voters unless they're fully united about defeating Trump. And here's the thing, Sanders and Warren are actually very similar politically. I think they're already getting in each other's way and probably cannibalizing some support for one another. At a certain point, one of them is going to have to bow out and get out of the way of the other, but my feeling is that this won't happen until late in the game.
     
  7. Gameface

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    I don't think there are many "dems" at all that want Hillary anywhere near this race.

    I don't think she was ever really loved as a candidate, but she was seen (with A LOT of help from the DNC) as the easy front-runner and potential first woman POTUS as a nice little bonus.

    I think if the DNC had just let the chips fall where they may Bernie would have won the primary and gone on to easily beat Trump.

    People were not upset because Hillary lost, they were upset because a disgusting, low-intelligence, egotistical, self-proclaimed ***** grabber, incompetent blow-hard jackass had just been elected.
     
  8. babe

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    Biden has a son, Hunter. Hunter came along on an official visit to China, and hob-nobbed with the Honchos, and came home with a billion-dollar investment in a business he knew nothing about. I mean, the Chinese don't throw their money away, except in Casinos and massage resorts. They got something for their investment. I'd call that directly being bought by a foreign state. No mere meddling. Outright sell out.
     
  9. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Answers in bold.

     
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  10. babe

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    well .... well.... I can see your view just about to the last line.

    I wasn't set to think we'd ever have politicians who could teach Sunday School.

    I did notice how fast Hillary was taken off the stage, and I thought it was because she was being a vitriolic old bitter hag. But then there was this whole DumpTrump thing that sounded just like that, too.
     
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  11. Gameface

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    Did you start typing with the intent of responding to my post or did you quote me by accident?
     
  12. babe

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    I've been editing whatever.

    Some years ago I worked for a billionaire who probably knew Epstein and had him handle some investments. Another billionaire who got married and turned his life around and became a family man. Almost as dramatic as it looks to me like Trump probably did.
     
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  13. LogGrad98

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    The health care argument is so stupid. We all pay for it now so if course we will all pay for it. Only with health care reform we won't exclude poor people because they can't afford it and won't bankrupt middle class people because they can't afford it while rich people get all the private doctors they want. Our health care system is so broken we pay more than any other developed nation for sub-standard care that isn't accessible to huge chunks of the population. It's ridiculous.

    My son needs medication to control epilepsy. In Germany that medicine cost us 20 euros per month out of pocket. Here it's $300. He can't afford that. I can't afford to buy it for him, although I do. There is so much wrong with this picture it just isn't funny any more.
     
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  14. JazzyFresh

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    The party of extremely low standards... Wow.
     
  15. Safetydan

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    It is amazing how so many people in this country, with a straight face, try to pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.
     
  16. Jazzta

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    “Why should I care about other places, we have everything we need right here in the US”.

    I’ve actually heard people say this..
     
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  18. Heathme

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    Warren and Sanders are ridiculous. They will run the economy into the ground.

     
  19. Jonah

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    The problem with Williamson is that more Republicans are excited about her and want her to do well than Democrats. She has yet to exceed one percent in any of the qualifying polls for the next debate in September. She needs to hit 2 percent in four qualifying polls in just the next two weeks to make the debate. Extremely doubtful this happens. So far, not many Democrats anywhere have been willing to turn out for her. Democrats tend to support candidates they think have the best chance of beating Trump. Republicans get excited about fringe Democrats that really have no shot against Trump because it’s fun to try to splinter Democrats and prevent, for as long as possible, the Party from coalescing around one strong candidate.
     

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