2020 Presidential Election

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  1. Heathme

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  3. Jazzta

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    Sadly, from what I saw last night the Democratic party doesn’t have much to offer. I don’t see any of the candidates mobilizing enough population to take down Trump.
     
  4. The Thriller

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    The last polls out this past week or two showed 5 democratic candidates beating trump. Even in the special elections they lost this week, Democrats vastly over-performed while republicans under-performed. In a N.C. district that’s been held by republicans since 1963 and which trump won by 12, the Republican candidate only won by 2 pts.

    That’s not a good sign for Republicans. Especially if consumer confidence in the economy continues to erode.

    I think you’re mistaking what YOU want out of the candidates with what most Americans want. Which is fine, I want candidates to do what I want too. But just know, we might not be representative of what the general voting public wants.

    For discussion purposes, which candidate(s) did you like the most from last night?
     
  5. fishonjazz

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    Conservatives love thier hyperbolic bogeymen.


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  6. fishonjazz

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    How about here in the USA right now. That was easy.


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  7. The Thriller

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    Yeah, they’re a corporation making money off of it. What I’m saying is that as a primary network you'd hope they’d have a higher standard. What I meant is that they’re making money off a terrible campaign ad.

    Would Fox News show a terrible campaign ad from Democrats on Nunes or Gaetz even if the offer was insanely profitable for them? Doubt it. Why? Because Fox News knows its role. This just seems to be a continuation of our “liberal media” in an effort to show balance or make money, throws any principles away. It’s yet another example of how the right and (alt right) in particular highjack the institutions of our democracy and “use” them to pump poison into our system.

    See what I’m saying here? So used might’ve been the incorrect verb. But it feels like ABC and our “liberal mainstream media” always seems to swing right. And then the normalization of this type of extremism occurs without any equal effort made by right wing media to balance things out. Know what I’m saying?
     
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    You are right that he openly hates and thats wrong. I disagree that he simply spams like heathme. Heathme only posts tweets of others peoples thoughts that are hugely hyperbolic and rarely serious to normal people.

    And comparing thriller to dutch? Come on man. Zombie said it best, Dutch didn't have a single post that wasn't unhinged unadulterated nonsense. Thats a huge difference between the two. Dutch was a crazy psychopath.


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  9. The Thriller

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    Wow. So hateful. ;) I mean, I get that 35 percent of the country eats this up. But does this really work on everyone else? It immediately turned me off. Why?

    1. Because I’m not stupid enough to conflate universal health care and student financial aid, the stuff AOC advocates with the Khmer Rouge taking over the public education system and economy while rounding up and killing millions of people. I mean, I’m old enough to remember a few months ago when the right was mocking her for crying outside of an internment camp on the border.

    2. The ad was so extreme (skulls, bodies, burning) and so demeaning that it turned me off. It could’ve been made by Warren herself, and it probably would've motivated me to donate to her biggest rival and never vote for her again. Are Americans really so desensitized to this stuff? Judging by the backlash this caused on social media, I guess the answer is no. Lots of people seemed turned off by it. So what was it’s purpose? Give fresh meat to the Breitbart and Shapiro boys? Is that what abc is doing now? Throwing fresh meat at the dumbest and most hateful among us?

    But I agree, the hyperbolic obsession of falling everything “socialism” is in full effect. It’s the boogeyman. But isn’t it losing its effect? It’s the boy who cried wolf by now, right? I remember when Obamacare was called socialism.
     
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    Yang. And Warren was good last night too.
     
  11. One Brow

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    Closer to 300 million.
     
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    Since I agree more with The Thriller politically than you, it's likely bias on at least one (probably both) of our parts that we see him differently.

    I do see one major different between The Thriller and Heathme, that if you engage with The Thriller on the content of his posts, he will try to rationally defend his position. However, I do agree he does a lot of spam posts as well (though usually not from satire sites, which Heathme uses).

    I see another kind of difference between The Thriller and the poster formerly known as dutchjazzer: dutchjazzer seemed quite paranoid about people being out to get him, the government taking over and shutting down citizens, etc. Also, The Thriller attacks people as a group; dutchjazzer attacker posters as individuals.
     
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    Once the networks decided news had to be a profit center, instead of a public service, their news became unreliable. They are about money, period, and if this ad makes them more money than it lose, they will run it.
     
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    ABC would show that ad as well, and so would MSNBC (the latter would not have shown the AOC ad).
     
  15. fishonjazz

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    Here is a post from a while ago that might help you come to terms with his racism.

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    I honestly don't think it's losing its effect. I think tons of Americans still get scared as hell and triggered like a ************* by the word socialism. It's like the scariest thing ever to many people despite the fact that those same scared people use socialist services all the time without realizing it.

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    The green new deal doesn't eliminate the energy industry. That's one of the stupidests comments I've ever heard.

    Is "Texas Medical Center" a specific place? If so, how exactly is Medicare for all going to harm it? Unless it's an insurance company I don't see what having more insured patients is going to do to harm it.

    On this one I think it's incredibly stupid for Democrats to talk about mandatory buy-backs or anything like that, when such a thing hasn't come close to passing the test as far as legality or logistics. So needless to say, whatever a politician says they would like to do in regard to taking away people's guns, they've got to get that past the House and Senate first, which would be hard, but still the easy part. Then they'd have to get it past legal challenges that our current Supreme Court would be extremely unlikely to uphold.

    So, yet another dumb as **** share by mommy bird.
     
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    The guns stuff was dumb. I think the Democrats should ease up on that one. Way too many gun owners in america to talk about doing anything extreme at this point. Stick to background checks and magazine capacity and stuff.
    I heard Beto say something to the effect of we are coming for your guns. That's just gonna role people up and get them paranoid and do no good whatsoever.

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