2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by White Chocolate, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Heathme

    Heathme Guest

    1,056
    305
    133
    May 26, 2010
     
  2. Eminence

    Eminence Well-Known Member

    1,568
    295
    118
    Feb 25, 2015
    The Texas Medical Center is actually a specific place - it's essentially the medical district for Houston (I believe the largest in the world) tons of universities around Texas have a base there as well (visited a couple times while I was in grad school). 100,000 some people employed there.

    Though I don't think Medicare For All would cause it any real problems.
     
    Gameface likes this.
  3. Zombie

    Zombie Well-Known Member

    4,995
    3,232
    268
    Dec 20, 2011
    This gets framed this way (as does everything gun related) but actually public support tells a different story.

    Screenshot_2019-09-13-13-57-45.png
     
    The Thriller likes this.
  4. Eminence

    Eminence Well-Known Member

    1,568
    295
    118
    Feb 25, 2015
    The Castro vs Biden dustup seems to be the main talk of last night, and while Castro came out looking like a bit of an *** I think Biden was worse.

    Castro misheard Biden's quote, but Biden appears to be straight up lying about his policy. People will not automatically qualify for his policy as currently construed, there is means testing involved and not everyone will qualify (you have to be below some percentage of the poverty line, I want to say 138%).
     
  5. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

    2,330
    1,363
    218
    Jul 25, 2017
    All I know is that I want $1000/month of extra income. And I have a feeling that I’m not alone. Money in the bank baby.
     
    Red, Wes Mantooth and fishonjazz like this.
  6. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

    16,445
    2,796
    263
    Jun 8, 2010
    What does Yang have to offer? Is he a civil rights advocate? Does he promote prison reform? Gun reform? What legislation has he sponsored? Is he promoting economic equality legislation? Is he a former General? Is he a foreign policy womp?

    I just don’t see what he offers other than not being a politician. And we all see how that’s working out... After Trump, don’t we kinda want someone who like... knows stuff about government?
     
  7. Zombie

    Zombie Well-Known Member

    4,995
    3,232
    268
    Dec 20, 2011
    Yang's appeal is that he takes a technocratic approach to problems instead of an ideological one. While I would certainly prefer a candidate with at least come public service background, his policy ideas aren't bad imo.
     
    candrew and Jazzta like this.
  8. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

    16,445
    2,796
    263
    Jun 8, 2010
    I’m going to disagree and agree here.

    Disagree that talking about guns is off putting. Not anymore. Public opinion has moved so far that I think even in key battleground states democrats should discuss openly about gun regulation. People want regulation. They’re tired of the stores, theaters, and schools becoming bloodbaths. They’re tired of being held hostage by the NRA.

    I will agree that talking about gun buybacks or confiscation is dumb.

    Furthermore, why is Beto doing this?



    This makes him look scripted, fake, and making a profit over stuff he shouldn’t. He makes the entire DNC and democratic process look cheap. We’re trying to find out who should be president. This should be taken serious. I’d say only Bernie, Joe, and Warren seem to be treating this with as much seriousness as they should. Yang, Beto, even Kamala at times give me the impression that they’re not ready to be considered serious candidates.
     
    fishonjazz and Zombie like this.
  9. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

    16,445
    2,796
    263
    Jun 8, 2010
    Ugh. That’s the opposite of what I want. I guess he might have some good ideas. I’ll take your word for it since I honestly haven't Cared enough to look at his stances.

    I want someone who actually knows stuff. Government, allies, foreign policy. I want a politician. I don’t want some smart *** who shoots from the hip. Or someone treating government like a business. I’d rather see someone try and work something through Congress than tweet out nonsense or body surf.

    I’m eager for serious politicians in the mold of Bush I, Johnson, Eisenhower, FDR more than “cool guys that I can have a beer with.”

    Give me Warren.
     
    fishonjazz likes this.
  10. Zombie

    Zombie Well-Known Member

    4,995
    3,232
    268
    Dec 20, 2011
    For sure, Warren is at the top of my list by a mile.
     
    fishonjazz and The Thriller like this.
  11. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

    19,268
    4,369
    248
    Jul 14, 2015
    Yeah, I don’t really care what some polls say. Trump would likely just hate talk and destroy anyone on stage, as ******* as he is or not.
     
  12. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

    16,445
    2,796
    263
    Jun 8, 2010
    Did you cross your heart? Please don’t mention Great Leader’s name in vain. Great Leader will win against any opponent! Great Leader is better than all leaders ever combined!

     
  13. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

    2,330
    1,363
    218
    Jul 25, 2017
    Lol, “I want a politician”. The same class of effin politicians that have started endless wars on behalf of other countries? The same class of politician that promises to fix the mess our health care system is in and then doesn’t do ****? Give me a President that really stands for the people, regardless of their background. Career politicians is PRECISELY what this country does not need. And don’t use Trump as an example of a non-career politician.

    You wouldn’t dare to call yourself a progressive not caring if someone the likes of Biden wins the nomination would you?
     
  14. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

    16,445
    2,796
    263
    Jun 8, 2010
    Not all politicians vote for wars. Nor do I believe we need to continue to attack all politicians for the decision made by the Bush administration in 2002.

    I definitely don’t want anymore populists. And I’ve never wanted a businessman who wants to treat the government as a business. It’s remarkable to me that somehow for so long people have thought that treating government like a business would be a good thing. It’s honestly the dumbest campaign slogan ever recorded yet it’s still so appealing to people who rant nonstop about how crappy their jobs are then vote for a politician who wants to run the government like a business. It’s yet another sign of our society; clumsy, stupid, and unserious about government.

    I disagree with you, I believe we need more politicians in government. Right now we have too many populists, reality tv stars, and arsonists in government (the freedumb caucus). We need less people focused on their brand and appearing hardass by swearing (Beto) and more Expertise. We need more economic specialists, more foreign policy experts (I can’t remember the last time we had a pres like this), and more financial Wizards (like Warren).

    Imo, we need to stop electing people who remind them of their beer chugging buddy. Sorry, but the president should be a helluva lot smarter than the guys I go out and drink with.

    As far as your last comment, I’ll support whoever the Democrats nominate as their candidate. Biden or Warren. I don’t care. I hate trump.
     
  15. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

    2,330
    1,363
    218
    Jul 25, 2017
    I have to see more about Warren, I can’t help but think of her as that angry teacher that won’t let the kids move an inch away from their desks, ruler in hand.
     
  16. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

    38,981
    5,572
    388
    Dec 13, 2011
    Don’t like many of her policies but she’ll have my vote over trump.
     
    LogGrad98 likes this.
  17. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

    2,330
    1,363
    218
    Jul 25, 2017
    Oh I’d choose her over the orange menace any day of the week.
     
    Stoked likes this.
  18. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

    54,695
    10,260
    388
    Nov 4, 2010
    Lol, I'm a fan of Warren but I totally see what you mean

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using JazzFanz mobile app
     
  19. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

    16,445
    2,796
    263
    Jun 8, 2010
    Fantastic. That’s exactly what we need after trump! Rules and laws should mean something! If Barr were Warren’s AG, I’d hope she’d put him in a timeout chair.
     
  20. Safetydan

    Safetydan Well-Known Member

    850
    258
    118
    May 26, 2010
    thanks for the boner
     
    LogGrad98, Jazzta and The Thriller like this.

Share This Page