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Can we talk about how epic the DWill trade was?

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by UGLI baby, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. UGLI baby

    UGLI baby Well-Known Member

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  2. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    Interesting that he mentions how much he loved Sloan's system. This should add some weight to the argument that he had very little to do, at least actively, with Sloan quitting. KOC did do a good job on this, and Mo Williams stats-wise is not far from Deron this year.
     
  3. orangello

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  4. Lattimer

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    Too bad we are pissing off the most important players in that trade leading to them possibly asking out of here before even their extensions.
     
  5. orangello

    orangello Well-Known Member

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    Harris?
     
  6. PrinceJL

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    just think, we probably would've ended up with Beaubois, a massive TPE, & crappy late 1st rounders if KOC hadn't traded DWill when he did...
     
  7. orangello

    orangello Well-Known Member

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    Why isn't that same logic being used right now?
     
  8. PrinceJL

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    with regards to Al/Paul? Well i think there's a better chance to resign 1 of them...
     
  9. NAOS

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    ... how epic are the Jefferson and Marvin trades gonna be?
     
  10. orangello

    orangello Well-Known Member

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    I can't wait to have my mind blown!
     
  11. PrinceJL

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    "And that system (in Utah) was a great system for my style of play. I'm a system player, and I loved Coach (Jerry) Sloan's system. I loved the offense there. We could've been a really good team. We just weren't that good defensively as a group."

    Man, I was really clamoring for Chandler in '10 before CHA send him to DAL.
    DWill - Hayward - ?(CJ)? - Jefferson - Chandler
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    Mo - Hayward - Marvin - Paul - Al (Favors/Kanter/GSW pick)
     
  12. JimLes

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    Or it should prove that he's a piece of crap, as we all suspected for years but chose to pretend otherwise, kinda like when you're dating a hot girl who's a total bitch and you keep telling yourself she's not.
     
  13. NAOS

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    Too bad your racial politics don't extend to gender, you lil bitch.
     
  14. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    I've said this all along, but I'll evaluate how awesome this trade once we've finally rounded the corner and have a qualitatively new identity and some sense for how good the players are we got in return. Early signs are good, but it is obvious that we need to see more of Kanter and Favors, and we need to turn Harris/Marvin into something non-half-assed. Playing the long-game with Jefferson and the GS pick isn't working out.
     
  15. JimLes

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    Reverse the genders. Same thing.
     
  16. Ellipse

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    "Don't it always seem to go, that we don't know what we got 'till it's gone..."
     
  17. Gas

    Gas Well-Known Member

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    Deron certainly isnt playing at the same level he was here. I dont know what it is. Attitude?, Injuries?, System? Who knows. He is only shooting 38% right now. That is just terrible. When he was at his best here he was close to 50 %. Thats the difference between being terrible and elite. His decision making doesnt even seem the same. That could be the system. I dont know whats up with him, but for the majority of the time here he was a bad ass dude. One of the top players in the world. So far none of the pieces we have got for him has shown to be anywhere near the level he was at. Its all potential speculation right now.

    With everything being what it is right now, it definitely looks like we made out on that trade. If I were given a choice though between the best we have seen Deron at and the best we have seen for all the guys we got for him, I would take Deron in a heartbeat. Favors and Kanter could end up being great but we havent seen it yet. And the GS pick is still yet to be seen. And really the Harris/Marvin piece has been garbage.

    A lot of people hate on Deron around here, but I enjoyed the time he was here. He was a pleasure to watch.
     
  18. NUMBERICA

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    Deron's damaged goods. That wrist and ankle aren't going to ever be 100% and that's a huge problem.
     
  19. orangello

    orangello Well-Known Member

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    I'm gonna say it was altitude.
     
  20. billyshelby

    billyshelby Well-Known Member

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    We have not won this trade yet.
     

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