Coronavirus in China


LogGrad98

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Another day another member of the Trump family saying stupid ****

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Yeah the problem is we already know people believe all kinds of random ****. Look at all the fake crap that floats around Facebook. Literally everyone here, I guarantee, has had a friend they viewed as intelligent post something stupid or fake as if it were legitimate. All Trump's call has to do is say **** like this and plenty of people will believe it, repost it, often removing the original source, until it becomes simply "Donald Trump develops vaccine that cured his own COVID". **** like that will swing some voters and definitely solidify his base and they know it. They are masters of using fake news to their advantage.
 

The Thriller

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more than 1000 cases per day in Utah is the new norm.
remember in July when Gov Herbert said we needed under 500 cases for 2 weeks in order to reopen schools? We’re two weeks into October now and we’re averaging 1,163 new daily cases.

Remember when Drs Fauci, Birx, and our local Dr Dunn said we needed under 5 percent positivity for tests in order to safely reopen? We’re averaging 15.2 percent in this month.

I remember the task force that Spencer Cox and Dr Dunn led in May and June said that we needed two weeks of downward trends in order to safely reopen. New cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are up over 20 percent this month.

Why aren’t we seeing any changes on the state level to lower our numbers? Seems like the science has become too inconvenient and is merely being ignored now. We obviously aren’t the only state to ignore the science. But it just goes to show how rudderless our leadership has been. The next several months are going to be bleak. Yes, we are doing a better job of keeping people alive. But we’re doing a terrible job of keeping people from getting infected in the first place because we’re ignoring science.

BTW, we are averaging 5 deaths per day, our deadliest month so far.
 

tfivas

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I was in Vernal this weekend and you wouldn't even know there's a pandemic going on. No one was wearing masks except for at Walmart and Dinosaurland.
I'm not anti-mask but it was nice tbh.
 

Red

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This is the kind of **** that concerns me the most (as far as personal fear vis a vis coronavirus): BRAIN FOG & PERSISTENT INFLAMMATION.

Yep, totally agree. One reason I’ve been consistently pointing out the existence of “long haulers” where Covid-19 is concerned. Every single time someone points out death rate, or the average age of those who die from Covid, etc. Yes, death is a worst case scenario, but losing one’s quality of life is no small thing. It is the persistence of debilitating conditions like brain fog, as well as other chronic problems, that led to the creation of Survivor Corps.

 

FAILED STATE

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Yep, totally agree. One reason I’ve been consistently pointing out the existence of “long haulers” where Covid-19 is concerned. Every single time someone points out death rate, or the average age of those who die from Covid, etc. Yes, death is a worst case scenario, but losing one’s quality of life is no small thing. It is the persistence of debilitating conditions like brain fog, as well as other chronic problems, that led to the creation of Survivor Corps.

Yep, long hauling and dying alone have clearly emerged as the darkest dimensions of this disease. Imo.
 
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LogGrad98

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There's little point in a vaccine if you can be reinfected.
The problems is it is multi-strain. They need a vaccine for as many strains and they can, like of like the flu shot does already. The big problem is there isn't a lot of info on which strains are worst.
 

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There's little point in a vaccine if you can be reinfected.
Not exactly. Many vaccines are augmented with adjuvants that boost the immune response. So, in theory, even if you had a disease where initial infection did not provide enough immune building to ward off future infections, you could (theoretically) engineer a vaccine with adjuvants that boosts the immune response. Many vaccines have adjuvants.

However, this is like lightening striking in the same place twice. It's an old wive's tale that it can't happen because you don't see it often. Of course it can happen. It's just not common at all. With nearly 40 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 world-wide (and with the the WHO recently coming out stating that they believe 10% of the world's population has already been infected [that'd be 780 million, if correct]), of course there will be reinfections. Influenza can re-infect people, as can nearly any infectious disease. It's just that it's not common. But publication bias will keep this alive for a while.

I stand by my comment, however, that by the time a vaccine is broadly available, it will no longer be needed in the sense that it's necessary for curbing the pandemic.
 

Beer

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So what do Utah’s new restrictions mean? I see the Gov Herbert made some announcement today.
While being all for slowing the curve and saving lives, Herbert is also being a legit tard in how he is handling things. There is no rhyme, reason, or logic as to what they are doing. I don't blame people for being frustrated and not wanting to play along.

6,500 people in a 65,000 person stadium is not ok but 1,500 people in a 3,500 seat arena is good to go. Both outside. They are just throwing **** at walls and hoping for the best instead of being reasonable or logical.
 

The Thriller

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"Experts" obviously know best, claiming there would be 480,000 deaths by the first week of May 2020 (The Thriller posted this on 3/7/20).

But liberals will keep ignoring facts that don't support their agenda.
Reading is hard, I understand. But even for you this is embarrassing. Read the entire thread, child.
 

magic

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you sound nice.

Pretty sure we’re still on track to have 400,000 deaths by January. That’s “way off?”
First, even if the number ended up being 400K that's still 16.7% off, which is a pretty huge error.

Second, by claiming we are on track for 400K deaths, you are asserting that there will be ~176,000 deaths from now until Dec 31, 2020. 176k deaths in 76 days.

How about we make a bet. If there are 400K or more covid19 deaths by the end of the year, you win and I delete my account. If there are less than 400k covid19 deaths by then, I win and you delete your account.
 
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