Coronavirus in China

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  1. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    Wish we had made an effort using the 25th amendment before the Covid-19 Tsunami crashed ashore. As irresponsible a statement as it gets, and, just as important, detached from reality itself.
     
  2. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    "No greater love hath Trump than to lay down your life for his reelection.

    Only a once-in-a-century leader has the guts to say out loud what the worst among us are really thinking: everyone other than me is expendable."

    (I did not see the pandemic coming in election season 2016. But, I most definetly felt that, if elected, this is the type of amoral leader we would see emerge at some point. The very reason, on so many occasions, in so many words, I said : "you guys know this is a demagogue, right, right"?? I've been "accused" of being on a near 4 year "quest" to focus on this man child's many faults/flaws. Well, duh, ya think?):

    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ald-trump-coronavirus-response-richard-wolffe
     
  3. The Thriller

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    Are you in?
     
  4. The Thriller

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    at this point, yeah, it’s obvious that he’s exacerbating this problem. He needs to go.
     
  5. Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Why based on our population? China is way not dense and populated.

    It's not like USA has accurate numbers either. I think South Korea is probably closest to the most accurate.
     
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  6. Red

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    I think you'll agree, with statements like the above, so detached from any Earth bound reality, questions like this, regardless of how much Trump fans will protest, are bound to be asked:

    Is Donald Trump letting New Yorkers die because it's a Democratic state?:

    https://www.cityandstateny.com/arti...kers-die-covid-19-because-its-democratic.html

    "Trump has a history of acting vengefully toward New York, which he’s become particularly displeased with since taking office..."
     
  7. Scat

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  8. The Thriller

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    right. Because this president has no history of this sort of thing, right?

    “I’d like you to do a favor though...”

    but he’s learned his lesson, right?

     
  9. Avery

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    I'm really starting to doubt that a planned vacation in June is going to happen. My guess is this peaks in April, starts to flatten/erode in May but the directive to isolate/cancel large events/travel continues into the summer to limit a second wind.

    We've got to find a way to develop a vaccine in less than 12-18 months. If Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck and a crack team of oil drillers can hop aboard a spaceship and nuke an asteroid the size of Texas in 18 days, by golly we'll need to do better.
     
  10. One Brow

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    Not sure why I was brought into this, but since you did I'll offer my thought.

    I work for the Washington University School of Medicine. As one of the leading medical research institutions in the country, I can assure you that we are very much into modeling to predict the course of disease, whether it is trying to detect sepsis early on, or the spread of disease in population health. Doctors who spend their time studying population health models bring all the expertise of engineers who study population health models, but the additional knowledge of physicians. Similarly, the WHO are staffed with physicians who also do modeling, as is the CDC.

    As for the article, it was high on opinion, low on real fact. The US population is not as socially isolated as Dr. Yamin seems to think it is. We'll exceed a 50% infection rate. But, even at 50%, with a 2% hospitalization rate, that's 3,500,000 people in hospital being in a country with less than a million beds and no decrease in the prevalence of other diseases. If we have a fatality rate of 0.5% (which is a very low estimate), that's 875,000 people who died directly of this virus, and more who will have died from lack of access to hospital beds if the spread of the disease is not slowed.
     
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  11. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Doesn't China have like way more people than the US?

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  12. Gameface

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    two or three, sure
     
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  13. RandyForRubio

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    Gee, I dunno. The fact that say, Italy has 60 million people and we have 327. Or that China has over a billion. Statistically important.

    Regarding accuracy, the day of or day after China kicked Western journalists out, they dropped to like zero new cases a day. They're trying to blame the US Military for the virus. I think it's safe, and accurate, to not believe a thing coming out of their propaganda.
     
  14. RandyForRubio

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    Yes. And China, is uh...lying about their numbers.
     
  15. One Brow

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    We already had a lot of poverty under the full-steam economy.
     
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  16. One Brow

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    Already there. He's still better than Trump.
     
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  17. fishonjazz

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    That's not what you said in your post though.
    You said that because of our population it's obvious that we would have the most infected in the world

    If we were just going off population and nothing else then i would think it obvious that china would have the most infected.

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  18. fishonjazz

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    This

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  19. RandyForRubio

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    That's fair. I should have added that.

    If China wasn't lying out their ***, they'd have the highest numbers. But we have more cases than Italy, England, etc, because our population is higher. Percentage of cases based on population and adding in a starting point (one week in, two weeks in, etc) would make a lot more sense to me than just total numbers.
     
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  20. fishonjazz

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    Agreed.

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