Crazy trade idea

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by franklin, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. franklin

    franklin Well-Known Member

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    Here's my wildest one yet. Bear with me.

    https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=anrblnx

    Jazz get Orlando unprotected first, the worse of Denver & NYK 2014 first, and odd protection Phili 1st.(1)

    Why for Jazz? Big Baby will make a nice 3rd big for $6.4. Turk sucks 12mm off and could be bought out. Harrington's deal is only 50% guaranteed the next two seasons, about $3.6mm each. Total Jazz salary next summer would be roughly $40.5 after buying out Harrington, could drop $800k in Murphy, and might get a $million discount on Turkoglu. $9.8mm(2) is a bit to pay for three poor picks but the Jazz are in a position to afford it and still have roughly $20mm in cap space this offseason, 3 first round lottery picks to wheel and deal, and more picks in the pipeline to sweeten any future trades with. There's a lot of room in there to either move up in the draft or make a Harden type trade to complete a young core.

    Why for Orlando? These picks are not that good. Orlando is currently 9th worst overall. They also have little cap room(3) and being dragged down by Turk & Harrington's deals. This gives them bird rights on Bynum (S&T options if nothing else) and $25mm in cap room while finally clearing the books on trying to please Dwight Howard. A core of Jameer, Afflalo, Vucevic, and Bynum if he were to sign wouldn't be bad. The alternative now is no cap space, a late lotto pick in a weak draft, 3 more years of Harrington and Baby, and no cap space to improve.





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    (2) -- 12mm Hedo + 7.2 Harrington - 5.9 total salary change between this season and Marvin's contract next year - $3.5 Raja.

    (3) -- Up to $9.5mm with a Harrington buyout.
     
  2. franklin

    franklin Well-Known Member

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    FTR, I think Florida says no but it's a tempting offer.
     
  3. NAOS

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    Didn't Orlando already say no to Bynum?
     
  4. Gyp Rosetti

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    I'd do it in a heartbeat for the reasons you mentioned.

    All of these picks and Hayward, Burks, etc. may be enough to move up and get that stud who should go #1 in 2014.
     
  5. Gas

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    Kevin O Connor just said no. Too much work.
     
  6. NAOS

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    I'm def not opposed to Baby as a third big.
     
  7. Gas

    Gas Well-Known Member

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    Do y'all think big baby wants to be a bench player? Ask Millsap how he feels about it. Same answer.
     
  8. franklin

    franklin Well-Known Member

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    All Bynum does is facilitate more salary and getting S&T options that won't come with Jefferson. Here's a counter: https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=atsp85a

    The Jazz price is down to $7.2mm total, fans get rid of every player we love to hate. Orlando could offer to pull 1 of the two picks owed to them (Denver/NYK is the best of the two) but send $3mm in cash. That's $4.2mm for a #9ish pick and the possibility of that Phili pick coming through.

    Picks: Jazz 10ish, Orlando 9ish, GSW 23ish.
     
  9. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    Please PM me a comprehensive list of talented players who openly admit to liking the bench. Kthx.
     
  10. Gas

    Gas Well-Known Member

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    No need to Pm


    Here is the list.

    Sixth man of the year awards winners.
    White guys
    Guys just happy to be there
    Older stars joined up on championship competing teams
    Most rookies
    Nice guys
     
  11. jope

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    crawford, ginobli, terry, camby for a while, martin, taj gibson, battier, lou williams, korver off the top of my head
     
  12. franklin

    franklin Well-Known Member

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    Repetitive (& fixed, so HH don't bitch).
     
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  13. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    No team will trade the #1 pick in 2014. Guarantee it.
     
  14. bovice

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    I don't get how buyouts work. You said Turkoglu's 12 mil could be bought out, does that mean the Jazz amnesty him or do we come to an agreement with him so we can cut his contract?

    and big baby will not be our 3rd big, lol.
     
  15. franklin

    franklin Well-Known Member

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    Yup, buy him out entirely and release him to FA.

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  16. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    Mating call?
     
  17. HeavenHarris

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    i dont get it bro
     
  18. utahjazz107

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    Can someone tell me exactly why Philly would trade Bynum for locker room killer in Bell and Jefferson? Jefferson and Thaddeus Young would be like Millsap-Jefferson all over again. They would be horrible at defense. Then they have to throw in a draft pick? Not a chance in hell
     

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