General questions about JAZZ personnel

[Dr. Jones]

Would like to get some input on a few very basic questions. As simple as they seem, your answers are of interest to me, so I appreciate anyone's patience that plays along.

1) At each of the first four positions on the floor (PG through PF), how would you rate our guys at taking their man off the dribble?
2) Adding to the question above, how well are those same guys at finishing at the rim?
3) How are we, at those same 4 positions at shooting the long ball?
4) At each of those positions, how well do we pass in tight traffic?
5) Do you think the leaves, in the fall, are pretty?

 

[Fishsticks]

Blues rocker is that you?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Blues rocker is that you?

I'll refrain from neg-repping you .. though the level of difficulty in doing so is monumental.

 

[orangello]

I'll play. I hope that a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best possible is ok with everyone.

1) At each of the first four positions on the floor (PG through PF), how would you rate our guys at taking their man off the dribble?
PG(Harris)- 7
SG(Hayward or Bell? I will go with Hayward)- 5
SF(Miles or Hayward? Miles)- 6
PF(Millsap)- 7
2) Adding to the question above, how well are those same guys at finishing at the rim?
Same guys as above
PG - 6
SG - 5
SF - 6
PF - 7
3) How are we, at those same 4 positions at shooting the long ball?
Same as above
PG - 4
SG - 6
SF - 5
PF - 3
4) At each of those positions, how well do we pass in tight traffic?
Same as above
PG - 7
SG - 7
SF - 4
PG - 6
5) Do you think the leaves, in the fall, are pretty?
Only for about a two week period of time then they become a bother.

I hope that helps slightly. I am ready to be berated and questioned about all of my choices.

 

[Fishsticks]

I'll refrain from neg-repping you .. though the level of difficulty in doing so is monumental.

I know you despise him with all you have so if you feel like dropping a red, it's all good.

 

[orangello]

Would like to get some input on a few very basic questions. As simple as they seem, your answers are of interest to me, so I appreciate anyone's patience that plays along.

1) At each of the first four positions on the floor (PG through PF), how would you rate our guys at taking their man off the dribble?
2) Adding to the question above, how well are those same guys at finishing at the rim?
3) How are we, at those same 4 positions at shooting the long ball?
4) At each of those positions, how well do we pass in tight traffic?
5) Do you think the leaves, in the fall, are pretty?

By the way, that took way more time than I thought it would.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I know you despise him with all you have so if you feel like dropping a red, it's all good.

Actually, he's gotten better .. at least he's posting with some regular sincerity instead of consistently posting some gibberish for shock value alone. So I don't despise him .. just NOT HIM.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

With the injuries it makes the question a bit tougher because would you want to include the injured players and with the line up juggling would definitely have to put names next to the positions especially since you could put Hayward and even Millsap at two positions now.

For example Millsap compared to PF's he's around a 6 for me straight across (bordering on 7 in some cases) but at SF he's 5's accross the board with passing maybe being a 4.

 

[orangello]

With the injuries it makes the question a bit tougher because would you want to include the injured players and with the line up juggling would definitely have to put names next to the positions especially since you could put Hayward and even Millsap at two positions now.

For example Millsap compared to PF's he's around a 6 for me straight across (bordering on 7 in some cases) but at SF he's 5's accross the board with passing maybe being a 4.

That is why I made a decision per position and ran with it.

 

[Dr. Jones]

By the way, that took way more time than I thought it would.

Thanks for answering, orange jello. I didn't overly analyze your response yet, but I can't say it looked too far off from how I would answer.

 

[orangello]

Thanks for answering, orange jello. I didn't overly analyze your response yet, but I can't say it looked too far off from how I would answer.

Dang, I was trying to go for shock and awe!

 

[Dr. Jones]

With the injuries it makes the question a bit tougher because would you want to include the injured players and with the line up juggling would definitely have to put names next to the positions especially since you could put Hayward and even Millsap at two positions now.

For example Millsap compared to PF's he's around a 6 for me straight across (bordering on 7 in some cases) but at SF he's 5's accross the board with passing maybe being a 4.

I agree. I guess it was somewhat of a hybrid specific/general question thing. Meaning, we could go person-by-person or you could choose to generalize things .. I get the complication of it all. Reason for my asking is I think GREAT teams have FOUR guys on the floor that can dribble, pass, and shoot. Four guys (though they can be different from the first group) that can rebound. Need two perimeter threats and two slashers. These are just PKM'isms and could be overly idealistic .. just always seen it this way.

Not to bring up UK (truly sorry, seriously), but as a comparison;

Guys that can take their man off the dribble - all 5 positions
True slashers - 3 at any given time
Guys that can rebound - always at least 3 on the floor at any given time
Guys that can shoot from 3 - Two
Good passing in traffic - always at least 3

On the perimeter I want 2 slashers/penetrators and 2 shooters. Up front I want two rebounders, one being a shot-blocker, one that can stretch the d.

Anyway, the more I write the more I realize what a moron I'm sounding like (cap'n obvious, I guess).. so I'll stop and take my punishment.

 

[BluesRocker]

You know how there are movies with twists like sixth sense. How like Bruce Willis realizes he actually dead.

Well similar to that it turns out that I am normal and most the people around here are actually the trolls and they don't know it yet.

PKM is about to figure out that he is actually the leader of the trolls. (Quite the twist to this movie)

Seriously? You asked a bunch of random no point to them basketball questions so you can ask the real question you want to know? Do we think the leaves are pretty in the fall? Cmon, of course they are. Wrong forum though. So trollish of you.


Do we get something for participating in your survey? I'm not going to finish until I know what my prize is.

 

[Dr. Jones]

You know how there are movies with twists like sixth sense. How like Bruce Willis realizes he actually dead.

Well similar to that it turns out that I am normal and most the people around here are actually the trolls and they don't know it yet.

PKM is about to figure out that he is actually the leader of the trolls. (Quite the twist to this movie)

Seriously? You asked a bunch of random no point to them basketball questions so you can ask the real question you want to know? Do we think the leaves are pretty in the fall? Cmon, of course they are. Wrong forum though. So trollish of you.


Do we get something for participating in your survey? I'm not going to finish until I know what my prize is.

There's no prize, so I guess there's no reason to continue. As for you finishing, I wish you well in your epic endeavor.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Would like to get some input on a few very basic questions. As simple as they seem, your answers are of interest to me, so I appreciate anyone's patience that plays along.

1) At each of the first four positions on the floor (PG through PF), how would you rate our guys at taking their man off the dribble?
2) Adding to the question above, how well are those same guys at finishing at the rim?
3) How are we, at those same 4 positions at shooting the long ball?
4) At each of those positions, how well do we pass in tight traffic?
5) Do you think the leaves, in the fall, are pretty?

A. Harris - 8 (7) [7] {6}
B. Hayward - 7 (7) [7] {7}
C. Carroll - 3 (Not sure) [4] {Not sure}
D. Sap - 7 (7) [5] {6}
E. Jefferson - 6 (6) [0] {6}

I ranked each of those in relation to their position and in order of question. Also ranked Sap and Jefferson low on long ball because they don't really attempt it.

 

[BluesRocker]

Blues rocker is that you?

Ya its me

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I agree. I guess it was somewhat of a hybrid specific/general question thing. Meaning, we could go person-by-person or you could choose to generalize things .. I get the complication of it all. Reason for my asking is I think GREAT teams have FOUR guys on the floor that can dribble, pass, and shoot. Four guys (though they can be different from the first group) that can rebound. Need two perimeter threats and two slashers. These are just PKM'isms and could be overly idealistic .. just always seen it this way.

Not to bring up UK (truly sorry, seriously), but as a comparison;

Guys that can take their man off the dribble - all 5 positions
True slashers - 3 at any given time
Guys that can rebound - always at least 3 on the floor at any given time
Guys that can shoot from 3 - Two
Good passing in traffic - always at least 3

On the perimeter I want 2 slashers/penetrators and 2 shooters. Up front I want two rebounders, one being a shot-blocker, one that can stretch the d.

Anyway, the more I write the more I realize what a moron I'm sounding like (cap'n obvious, I guess).. so I'll stop and take my punishment.

Everything besides that sounds about right to me. In college it's easy for big school to get enough athletes to do this, but in the NBA it just isn't necessary to have all 5 men be able to take their guy off the dribble.

 

[BluesRocker]

Can someone tell me what the hell is wrong with Charles Barkleys voice?

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Not that your question/survey needed to tell you this but shooting is the Jazz' biggest tangible weakness, now if there was just some way to measure defensive intensity or correlate it to one of the other tangibles so the Jazz could add some of that (also good screens on offense would be nice).

Sorry kinda got side tracked.

Mine kinda matches Cyrone's but maybe on the 7's I'd go 6.5 (cause it's kinda depending on the matchup) and I'd also rather put Burks in there now that everybody is injured but it hard because being a rookie it depends on the game.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Everything besides that sounds about right to me. In college it's easy for big school to get enough athletes to do this, but in the NBA it just isn't necessary to have all 5 men be able to take their guy off the dribble.

I agree, Cy. I was only making a comparison. Pointless, really .. I admit.