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Have "The Core Five" Turned A Corner?

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In January 2014 they are averaging:

Favors - 16.2 ppg, 9.2 rpg, .2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 1 spg in 31.4 mpg

Kanter - 14.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg, .7 apg, .7 bpg, .8 spg in 22.3 mpg

Hayward - 27.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.3 bpg, 2.0 spg in 39 mpg

Burks - 15.8 ppg, 4.0 bpg, 2.8 apg, .2 bpg, .3 apg in 31.5 mpg

Burke - 13.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 7.3 apg, 0 bpg, .8 spg in 33 mpg

Hayward leads the team in ppg, bpg, spg and mpg.
Favors in rpg.
Burke in apg.

Have they turned a corners as individuals and a team? Thoughts?

Once again all figures are for January 2014
 
yes, now we just need to get the team to trade Marv and Jefferson, and make Corbin start the core 5.
 
b_line said:
yes, now we just need to get the team to trade Marv and Jefferson, and make Corbin start the core 5.
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if that happens i bet you the first 2-3 losing streak corbin experiences he will wip out a starting 5 of
burke rush hayward favors and biedrins

need vet presence
 
DutchJazzer said:
if that happens i bet you the first 2-3 losing streak corbin experiences he will wip out a starting 5 of
burke rush hayward favors and biedrins

need vet presence
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Sounds awesome! Then we will have 2-3 streaks of 2-3 game losing streaks, and be back on top of the tankorama!
 
Im especially happy for Burks. Last three games he has been great. finally he is getting some spot lights he deserves and showing what he is capable of to everyone.
 
More important than their stats (at least to me) is the fact that EVERY night a member of the Core5 puts together a lights-out, blow-up performance whether they win or lose. We're seeing the kind of incredible potential that all of these lottery picks have.

They need consistent minutes, a chance to develop chemistry together and the opportunity to make (and learn from) mistakes without being worried about getting benched in favor of less talented vets. Imagine if the Jazz could rely on a great performance from someone every night for a whole season AND that they all improve as they continue to play together. I think that could be a special team.
 
They do seem like they a growing as the season goes a long.


its all so confusing conflicting.

We want to see those guys be good but we want to tank too.


Maybe the Jazz are just planning on pulling the plug once they see what they want to see. It was so bad in the beginning that I can see why they would want to see some wins for a bit. You gotta evaluate the talent and the coach to know what to do next.
 
Favors should block more shots.

Kanter should get more rebounds and block more shots.
 
Ellis269 said:
More important than their stats (at least to me) is the fact that EVERY night a member of the Core5 puts together a lights-out, blow-up performance whether they win or lose. We're seeing the kind of incredible potential that all of these lottery picks have.

They need consistent minutes, a chance to develop chemistry together and the opportunity to make (and learn from) mistakes without being worried about getting benched in favor of less talented vets. Imagine if the Jazz could rely on a great performance from someone every night for a whole season AND that they all improve as they continue to play together. I think that could be a special team.
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Tyrone Corbin is still the coach, right?
I thought so..
 
The Fresh Prince said:
Tyrone Corbin is still the coach, right?
I thought so..
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I didn't say that it would happen this year. I'm just happy to see the progression. To be perfectly honest, I didn't think that Burks would develop into a guy who could start. In my mind, he was easily the guy on the outside looking in when they add another lottery guy in the upcoming draft.

Now. . . I'm not so sure. If they commit to the Core5, I think that the guys they draft will help round out the bench. (Especially now that it's looking like they'll fall out of the top 5.) I've been really impressed with Burks in the starting lineup, and I like how Kanter has looked lately as well.

I've been hoping for a starting lineup of Burke, Burks, Hayward, Kanter and Favors for this whole season. I hate how Corbin coaches with an emphasis on veterans (who often don't play as well as the young guys.) Hopefully Burks and Kanter keep balling out and FORCE their way into the starting lineup.
 
Stoked said:
In January 2014 they are averaging:

Favors - 16.2 ppg, 9.2 rpg, .2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 1 spg in 31.4 mpg

Kanter - 14.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg, .7 apg, .7 bpg, .8 spg in 22.3 mpg

Hayward - 27.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.3 bpg, 2.0 spg in 39 mpg

Burks - 15.8 ppg, 4.0 bpg, 2.8 apg, .2 bpg, .3 apg in 31.5 mpg

Burke - 13.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 7.3 apg, 0 bpg, .8 spg in 33 mpg

Hayward leads the team in ppg, bpg, spg and mpg.
Favors in rpg.
Burke in apg.

Have they turned a corners as individuals and a team? Thoughts?

Once again all figures are for January 2014
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That's 87 points a game right there (on average) just generate 20 or so more off the bench and you won't lose too many games. Would like to see a bit more rebounding from this group.
 
framer said:
That's 87 points a game right there (on average) just generate 20 or so more off the bench and you won't lose too many games. Would like to see a bit more rebounding from this group.
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GOBERT off the bench. . .

Honestly think that Kanter on the offensive glass and Favors on defensive should do well rebounding together.
 
Yes they are turning a corner.

It's in large part up to Corbin wether or not they can continue this trend. The next few games all have matchups where Kanter should start, but who knows if Corbin will bench Marvin. After all, Marvin Williams stats for January are an incredible: 26 MPG .368 FG%, 3.8 REB, 1.8 AST, 2 PF, .8 STL, & a whopping 5.8 PTS. How could we ever survive without that? We need him to save us and show our youngins how to ball. Plus, we owe him after the leadership that he has shown.

Seriously though, Marvin is a good guy, who plays hard and through pain--but this is also a contract year for him, maybe why he is playing so hard and through pain.

When do we start owing Kanter and worrying about how benching him may psychologically affect him?
 
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