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Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by homeytennis, Dec 14, 2018.
It sounds like the Bulls are through with him. Any interest?
He is still just 23 years old. I just saw this on Twitter if the Jazz might be interested in bringing him back next year: Promising rookie Kelan Martin (@kelan30_) displays his full arsenal, scoring 15 of LuBu's 24 points in the 4th to help beat Bremerhaven 75-58.
Jabari does not have Jazz DNA. Any player that openly says, ‘They don’t pay players to play defense’ should not play in a Jazz jersey.
Sometimes you have to swing for the fences. But this is Mirotic all over again. Bulls are going to want a 1st. Lindsey won't agree to that because there's no guarantee Jazz pick won't be a lottery pick. So Parker will be traded to a contender for a late 1st.
And this is EXACTLY why Lindsey should have been signing FA's throughout his time as a GM. They have VALUE! Instead, Dennis was keeping the payroll low to maximize profits. And every year he'd use the same damn "financial flexibility" line. And all of you bought it. Lindsey would talk about signing FA's on the cheap because the cap would hurt teams. But there are always a few who can scoop up the best FA's. Lindsey never makes a bold move. Mack, Korver...those are moves around the fringes. Utah will never be a contender unless/until Lindsey does something big.
BTW, I think Utah would be a great fit for Jabari. Make the pick top-10 protected and get it done.
Parker for Exum? Exum plays defense and parker doesn't. They both have tools. They both could use a change of scenery. We could use a forward who can score, stretch the floor, and perhaps we can convince him to play defense.
Exum is 3 years @ an avg of $11 million. Parker is 2 years @ 20 million. It's an $8 million difference. Trade exceptions could make it work I think. Is it really the right move? Meh. But Exum's confidence looks shot. It might be good for both players.
Plus they both have been walking on crutches at least half of their careers.
No. Not only no but hell no!
I posted this in the trade discussion thread, but I think it would mean more posting this here. This guy knows a lot about basketball and he goes over Jabari's strengths and weaknesses.
I Remember the hype around that draft. 3 cant miss all stars, 2 elite level pgs, blah blah blah. It had a quarter of the league including our beloved Jazz tanking .
The Jazz didn't tank for Parker. The Jazz tanked because they sucked and was "trusting the process"
lol if the Bulls get a late-first round pick, that’ll be a terrible haul for all the cap space they had last summer and used on Jabari.
Your post sucks.
Parker wanted to get drafted by the Bucks so he could live close to home in Chicago. He's now on the team that he wanted to be on from the beginning, and he rocked up to training camp out of shape and lost his starting role to Justin Holiday and Bobby Portis. Portis got hurt so he got his chance to start and had the opportunity to show his worth, but he's now completely out of the rotation as he can't play SF and he's a worse player than Bobby Portis, let alone Lauri Markannen.
Absolutely no way the Jazz should deal for him, if you're really desperate to take a flyer on him for some reason you'll be able to pick him up for cheap next offseason. Sad because his career was derailed by two ACL tears, but he's done nothing to show he's worth anywhere near his deal this season.
Ya they tanked. They tanked by the gm intentionally creating a crap roster that couldnt win no matter how badly the coach or any of the players wanted to.
The problem with Jabari is not just that he doesn't play good defense. Many young players need seasoning in the league to become even average defenders. The problem is that he's publicly shown distaste for playing defense on the day he signed 20M a year contract. Not only is he bad it, but his attitude about it is rotten from the very start. You just know that you will have to fight him for him to show even slightest of interest in playing defense let alone improving on defense.
BTW for us to get Jabari now we need to guarantee his contract for next year, which means we are punting on high end free agency altogether this coming summer.
His 2nd year has to be guaranteed if he is traded? I don't think that's the case. If we were to trade Favors, the other team wouldn't have to pick up Favors' 2019-20 option if they didn't want to. That's why he is valuable. The same is probably the case for Jabari - take the gamble but you can walk away in the summer if it doesn't work out.
It's the same situation with Mirotic' contract last year. Players on 1 year deals have veto power on trades. For him to not have the veto power the team(Chicago) has to pick up the team option year for next year (which means his contract is no longer 1 year contract thus he cannot veto it). In essence even if Jabari wants to come to Utah he will veto the trade until they guarantee his pay... He will have to want to come to Utah more than want 20M dollars guaranteed for next year for him to not veto that trade until it's guaranteed.
Favors' contract is different - it's not a team option(1 year + 1 year team option) but rather a non-guaranteed second year(it's essentially a 2 year contract... but just the first is guaranteed). This BTW is another credit to DL for structuring the contract like that.
I did not know that. Thank you for clarifying.
While that’s possible, you’d have to consider that he may want to go to a place where he feels like he can either 1) impress to keep the second year or 2) succeed enough to land a decent deal. His alternative is parking his *** on the bench in Chicago and hitting free agency without any chance to play. So that second year could be collateral when he looks at the overall picture.
If we have to take Jabari at $20 this year AND $20 next year, somebody might as well go ahead and close this thread.