Locke was wrong.

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  1. Jazz_junkie

    Jazz_junkie Member

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    A couple months ago me and him argued on twitter that Burks( I said was a poor mans westbrook) and he was telling me Jo way in hell would Burks ever be a decent PG...lol I'm still waiting on my answer back
     
  2. nightmare3983

    nightmare3983 First BF League CHAMP Contributor

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    Screenshots or it didn't happen.
     
  3. LunaticWolf

    LunaticWolf Well-Known Member

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    Wow, Poor mans westbrook? Thats really high for burks dude.
     
  4. Revolution 9

    Revolution 9 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    The point is Burks has talent. More talent than Watson or Tinsley.
    He is playing out of his natural position, but is fine as a back up PG.
    He can get us into our offense, and the defense has to respect his shot.
    He can slash, and attack the time better than Watson.

    He should have been playing above Earl this entire time.
     
  5. gomretat

    gomretat Well-Known Member

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    I would love Locke to be wrong on this topic - it would be great to have a PG with the size and strength of AB. The fact that AB had a good game at point against one of the worst defensive teams in the league doesn't mean we have an answer. Burks has struggled all year at both SG and PG with intermittent moments of solid play. Last night was great to see and I hope it continues lets hold off on where and how he fits.
     
  6. Hartsock

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    Well the fact that Burks looked pretty uncomfortable with Jimmer getting up in him on D is not a great sign, he is a terrible ball handler. He had a few assists last night but I dont think he did anything to show he could be a PG. I mean hell, even Jefferson had 5 assists the other night.
     
  7. Kyoto

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    I totally agree with this. Even with Thomas getting up on Burks, he had trouble getting into the offense usually ending in finally passing the ball to someone else with 7 seconds left on the clock. It seemed like the only way we were able to get into our offense was if he passed it to Foye and let him bring the ball up. Burks seemed really shaky with his ball handling skills, and it just seemed like if Foye wasn't on the court at the same time it would have been a terrible idea to have Burks at the 1.
     
  8. Dr. Jones

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    I think this thread is a general fail.
     
  9. Hartsock

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    As annoyong, creepy, weird as locke is I think he has a pretty decent basketball mind. Sometimes he uses stats over logic but there isn't a lot that he says that I disagree with.
     
  10. Dr. Jones

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    And that's somehow proof?
     
  11. Kyoto

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    Well, voice your opinion on how you think Burks played at PG.
     
  12. Kyoto

    Kyoto Well-Known Member

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    No one more annoying than someone who thinks they're 100% right when it comes to conjecture.
     
  13. Hartsock

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    Of course thats goddamned proof
     
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  14. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I still think that if the jazz used burks like they should have from the first game of last year, then we would have a very talented and effective 2 guard right now.... instead they are trying to make him into something that he is not and are not using him properly.

    Last night it was great to see him hitting those outside jumpers, but that is not his game..... It seems like the jazz try to take away everything that he is good at, and intead try to force him to do things that he struggles with, so i expect him to look bad.
    He should be getting a few iso plays each game, and some pick and roll situations. They should have him doing back door cuts and flashes to hoop (similar to ronnie brewer type plays) to use his athleticism.

    Instead, he brings the ball up and passes into the post and then mostly stands on the 3 point line waiting for a kick out so he take a long jump shot.... or he just sets screens down low to help al get the ball in post.
     
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  15. orangello

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    The entire time Burks was being guarded by Jimmer I kept thinking that he should blow by him and throw it down. That was the only negative that I really had with Burks' game last night.
     
  16. Dr. Jones

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    ^
    yup

    (sorry, that was meant to be in response to fishon's post)
     
  17. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor

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    If burks was to do that, then i think corbin would be pissed and tinsley would come in for him.
    Beating your man off the dribble and getting to the rim is NOT jazz basketball.
    He has learned to just keep feeding the post if he wants minutes.
     
  18. Hartsock

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    He looked terrible trying to bring the ball up the court and set up the offense, he looked pretty good when he was able to play the 2
     
  19. cowhide

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    I was just happy to see Burks get important minutes. I thought he did a decent job when he was out there. He was not the only one standing around at the end when AJ and Millsap hogged the ball. From the beginning I thought Burks could play some minutes at backup PG. I think he will get better the more he plays, something many of you forget. It is not like he was a PG coming into the league. I think he will learn when to be aggressive and when to hold back. Right now he is being conservative because he has been getting yanked when he does too much.

    I see a lot of improvement with Burks trying to run the offense. I think the Jazz should unleash him a little more but I am most happy about him playing meaningful minutes.
     
  20. Revolution 9

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    Burks did make a crossover in the 1st half that had Zimmer out of position. He had a lane to the hoop, didn't take it. Settled for,
    and clanked a jump shot instead. Those are mistakes he's going to make. He also had the turnovers early on as well.
    Thankfully he played through them, Ty kept him in, and he played better. It's going to take some rough patches to get where we want with these young guys.
    We can't live, and die with every mistake they make.
     
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