More fuel to the Fisher Fire....

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  1. wangchung12

    wangchung12 Member

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/sports/basketball/30lakers.html?pagewanted=2&ref=sports

    I was just reading this "lovely" piece of crap about the bromance between Fisher and Bean Bryant and noticed this quote:
    This just confirms for me that Fisher and Bean planned on Fisher leaving for LA especially the "We need him back" quote. Jazz Fans are totally justified in booing that Liar!!! Seriously the media needs to get off of Fishers junk and see him for what he is a liar and a piss poor father who used his daughter's illness to get out of a situation he didn't like!!!
     

  2. sirkickyass

    sirkickyass Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    Sounds like tampering to me.
     
  3. JJ Rage

    JJ Rage Active Member

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    For ****'s sake, let it die.
     
  4. sirkickyass

    sirkickyass Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    :roll:

    Unbelievable. We outscored the Warriors 14-4 in the OT and Fisher's shot came with a little over a minute to play remaining. The Jazz then out-scored the Warriors by four in the final minute to win by 10. It's difficult to say that any shot was the "game winner" from that game. What makes Fisher's shot significantly more important than Deron's three that came a couple minutes earlier? That shot also put us up by 3 in OT. Last I checked the points count the same. Fisher has an unbelievable publicist.
     
  5. moevillini

    moevillini the Chief Old D'oh Staff Member

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  6. Siro

    Siro Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Why are we still talking about that average back-up PG who left the team several years ago?
     
  7. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    At the time we thought it was a good move. It allowed Ronnie Brewer to get minutes and the promising Morris Almond to get some PT. Funny how some things don't work out.
     
  8. calijazz

    calijazz Winner of the 2011 Jazzfanz mock draft contest

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    Because that average backup PG beats the Jazz in the playoffs every season.
     
  9. JJ Rage

    JJ Rage Active Member

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    The same reason we're still talking about an offense foul from 12 years ago.
     
  10. Jazzfannut83

    Jazzfannut83 Member Contributor

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    Fisher leaving the Jazz indirectly hurt us, if that makes sense. His departure didn't make us a worse team, but he made the Lakers a better team...if Farmar were their starting PG, would they be doing as well? Doubtful.Of course, if Gasol weren't there it's a moot point but thats another story.

    As for the article, I remember Fisher would ask Kobe for advice on how to handle flying in late for games, since Kobe had to do that during his rape trial.For Anyone who believes Fisher and Kobe didn't discuss bringing him back to L.A. in their many conversations, I've got some Ocean Front Property in Arizona i'd love to sell you. And the media does keep fanning the flames, and his new book "Character Driven" (what a dooshbag title considering his lack thereof), just exacerbates this whole thing.
     
  11. Jazzfannut83

    Jazzfannut83 Member Contributor

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    Forget the push-off. Eisley's 3 was 20 feet in the air when the 24 second buzzer sounded, and Dickhead Bavetta waived it off, Ron Harper's 2 pt basket later in the game was clearly NOT out of his hands when the 24 second buzzer went off. Hot Rod talked about that in his book ...sure, they didnt happen late in the game but in a game decided by 1 point, you cannot discount those 5 points that went the Bulls way.
     
  12. JJ Rage

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    Derek Fisher's impact on the games Utah plays against LA is minimal, at best. Some of you need to come to grips with the fact that the Lakers are BETTER than Utah. This is why the board is filled with ludicrous trade ideas and debates over which big man the Jazz should draft. Because the Jazz need to get BETTER to compete with LA.

    There are a dozen reasons why Utah has lost to LA in 3-straight playoff series and Derek Fisher doesn't even come close to being one of them. I'm not defending the man, because the evidence exists that he manipulated the Jazz organization, but it just DOESN'T MATTER. AT ALL. You people need to let it go. Seriously, it's sad.

    Seriously, complaining that Utah lost because LA has Derek Fisher is akin to if LA fans lost to Golden State and complained it was because GS had Ronny Turiaf.
     
  13. Jazzfannut83

    Jazzfannut83 Member Contributor

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    I don't think anyone on this board believes the Jazz are better, or even close to as good as L.A...the discussion never dies because the media keeps fanning the flames. But in the grand scheme of things, you're right, it's not the difference in us losing to them, there's a ton of other factors that supersede that.
     
  14. sirkickyass

    sirkickyass Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    LA Fans would have a point about Turiaf if he sucked against 28 teams and went bonkers against the Lakers.

    Dude shot 38% this season, 34.8% from three.

    Against Utah: 56.5% and 50% from three.

    His shooting numbers fell during the playoffs but were still way above his season averages.
     
  15. Jazzfannut83

    Jazzfannut83 Member Contributor

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    Kicky, any chance you could go back to that twirling woman as your avatar? I miss that thing.
     
  16. honz

    honz Thunder Fanatic Contributor

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    Where in Arizona?
     
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  17. Kyoto

    Kyoto Well-Known Member

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    Just look up Uncle Ruckus on youtube then ask yourself if you really want it changed back. (not work safe)
     
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  18. Jazzfannut83

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    Honz, it's the title of a George Strait Song, lyrics "I don't love you, and if you'll buy that...I got some, Ocean Front Property in Arizona.... and if you'll buy that I'll throw the Golden Gate in free"
     
  19. LunaticWolf

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    Perhaps in the last two series.

    However, in the first series, which went to 6 games, Fisher had a huge impact. Utah would draw close to the Lakers on the road, and Fisher would come up with an offensive foul, or a steal. Stifling our offense, leading to an easy Laker two on the other end.

    He knows our plays like the back of his hand. He knew Deron Williams at the time and could stop him at will. To say he had no effect is that series is ludicrous.
     
  20. sirkickyass

    sirkickyass Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    I couldn't figure out how to shrink down the animated gif to the necessary 80X80. I gave up and went with Uncle Ruckus. If you can tell me how, I'd gladly change it back.
     

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