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Official Point Guard Thread.

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by BYE, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    I think we would all agree that we need a good PG on our team, and having read a post by PKM about the future college prospects for PG’s, it seems like our only option is through free agency or trade. Therefore, I have started this thread to update and keep track of PG’s that we could go after now and in the immediate future. I will not keep track of the Chris Pauls and Rondos of the NBA since getting them is next to impossible. I will update this thread from time to time with season stats so that we can compare these players in various categories. Let me know if there is someone you want me to put on the list, and let me know about their defense since it’s hard to know unless you watch them. Let me know if you disagree with any of the subjective stuff (defense, athleticism etc.)

    LIST OF PG’S
    1. Eric Bledsoe (22)
    2. Brandon Jennings (23)
    3. Jeff Teague (24)
    4. Darren Collison (25)
    5. Mo Williams (29)
    6. Jose Calderon (31)


    ACTUAL STATS
    Defense
    Eric Bledsoe
    Jeff Teague
    Brandon Jennings
    Darren Collison
    Mo Williams
    Jose Calderon

    Athleticism
    Eric Bledsoe
    Brandon Jennings
    Jeff Teague
    Darren Collison
    Mo Williams
    Jose Calderon

    Assists
    Mo Williams (7.1)
    Jose Calderon (6.9)
    Jeff Teague (6.8)
    Brandon Jennings (6.2)
    Darren Collison (5.8)
    Eric Bledsoe (2.8)

    Assist/TO Ratio
    Jose Calderon (3.45)
    Brandon Jennings (2.8)
    Mo Williams (2.7)
    Jeff Teague (2.4)
    Darren Collison (2.3)
    Eric Bledsoe (1.55)

    Points
    Brandon Jennings (16.7)
    Mo Williams (13.8)
    Jeff Teague (13.6)
    Darren Collison (12.3)
    Eric Bledsoe (9.8)
    Jose Calderon (9.7)

    Steals
    Brandon Jennings (2.4)
    Jeff Teague (1.8)
    Eric Bledsoe (1.5)
    Darren Collison (1.4)
    Mo Williams (1.1)
    Jose Calderon (.7)

    2%
    Eric Bledsoe (49%)
    Jeff Teague (44%)
    Mo Williams (44%)
    Darren Collison (43%)
    Jose Calderon (42%)
    Brandon Jennings (41%)


    3%
    Jose Calderon (46%)
    Jeff Teague (39%)
    Mo Williams (36%)
    Brandon Jennings (36%)
    Eric Bledsoe (33%)
    Darren Collison (27%)

    Points Per Shot
    Darren Collison (1.27)
    Jose Calderon (1.23)
    Eric Bledsoe (1.20)
    Mo Williams (1.14)
    Jeff Teague (1.09)
    Brandon Jennings (1.06)

    PER
    Eric Bledsoe (22.52)
    Brandon Jennings (17.56)
    Jeff Teague (16.88)
    Mo Williams (16.68)
    Jose Calderon (16.59)
    Darren Collison (15.18)

    82games.com simple rating
    Eric Bledsoe (8.7)
    Jeff Teague (5.0)
    Jose Calderon (1.5)
    Brandon Jennings (-1.9)
    Darren Collison (-2.5)
    Mo Williams (-4.5)

    +/-
    Jeff Teague (+11.4)
    Jose Calderon (+2.0)
    Eric Bledsoe (+.05)
    Darren Collison (-5.4)
    Mo Williams (-7.3)
    Brandon Jennings (-9.9)

    +/- Team Net Points
    Jeff Teague (+91)
    Eric Bledsoe (+55)
    Mo Williams (-19)
    Darren Collison (-46)
    Brandon Jennings (-53)
    Jose Calderon (-61)

    Win %
    Jeff Teague (76.5%)
    Eric Bledsoe (73.3%)
    Mo Williams (43.8%)
    Darren Collison (38.9%)
    Jose Calderon (35.0%)
    Brandon Jennings (27.8%)

    Win Totals
    Jose Calderon (2.1)
    Brandon Jennings (1.5)
    Eric Bledsoe (1.5)
    Darren Collison (1.3)
    Jeff Teague (1.2)
    Mo Williams (1.1)

    Win Totals/48
    Eric Bledsoe (.205)
    Jose Calderon (.184)
    Jeff Teague (.110)
    Brandon Jennings (.110)
    Darren Collison (.104)
    Mo Williams (.99)

    /36 STATS
    Assists
    Jose Calderon (9.0)
    Mo Williams (7.8)
    Jeff Teague (7.7)
    Darren Collison (6.4)
    Brandon Jennings (6.2)
    Eric Bledsoe (5.4)

    Points
    Eric Bledsoe (19.1)
    Brandon Jennings (16.6)
    Jeff Teague (15.5)
    Mo Williams (15.3)
    Darren Collison (14.2)
    Jose Calderon (12.7)

    Steals
    Eric Bledsoe (3.0)
    Brandon Jennings (2.4)
    Jeff Teague (2.0)
    Darren Collison (1.6)
    Mo Williams (1.2)
    Jose Calderon (.8)
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2012
  2. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    Nice post. I didn't read yet (please don't take offense), but I will..

    I love Bledsoe, I also like Collison .. Jennings is way down my list but still above Mo.
     
  3. HeavenHarris

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    trade paul millsap, who we're gonna lose for nothing anyway at the end of the season, for jose calderon.
    re-sign calderon for a cheaper contract at the end of the season. he is a great fit here because he can get the ball to the big men, which like it or not, is how TyCo wants the offense to run. the ideal pg in this system is one who can set up the bigs and then once they are set-up, can help them be succeful by keeping the D honest by being able to shoot. Jose can shoot open shots and he can set up bigs.
    then draft a PG and groom him to eventually overtake calderon.

    boom. thank you heavenharris.
     
  4. HeavenHarris

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    other PGs listed are nice but gonna be tough to get them in FA unless they are massively overpaid for.
     
  5. Brown Notes

    Brown Notes Well-Known Member

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    Holy ****ing hell no.
     
  6. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    Here's the bump and the adjusted stats. Jeff Teague and Eric Bledsoe are looking very intriguing. Jeff Teague seems like he can run an offense better than Bledsoe, has relatively high TO's, and is probably the all round best PG on paper. Bledsoe could be special with the right team. He's not going to rack up the assists and his three point shooting is generally poor, but he is second to none as an athlete. Let me know if you want someone else on the list.
     
  7. 8

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    Not sure on Bledsoe, I haven't watched much of him. But the clippers don't seem to trust his playmaking ability, Crawford is usually initiating the offense with the second unit. Not sure if that is quite the starting pg the jazz want.
    Someone enlighten me as I'm not too familiar with his play, but to me he seems quite a bit like burks, raw.
     
  8. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    I will help, but only if you look up his stats and post them here.
     
  9. Gas

    Gas Well-Known Member

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    Lets add Marcus Smart to the list.
     
  10. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    Haha, I <3 u, BRack.
     
  11. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    I'm posting highlights just to see these players at there best; feel free to do the same. This will show their overall athleticism. You can bet Calderon won't be dunking a lot.
    [video=youtube;0L2zLg-PXCU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L2zLg-PXCU[/video]
     
  12. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;e58VrCWqHew]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e58VrCWqHew[/video]
     
  13. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;zI2R5fqLrDQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI2R5fqLrDQ[/video]
     
  14. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    JJAS and I carrying the same torch.
     
  15. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;nMLOhbyDXzI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMLOhbyDXzI[/video]
     
  16. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    [video=youtube;GeETLod-Dk4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GeETLod-Dk4[/video]
     
  17. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;R1FcocSLdig]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1FcocSLdig[/video]
     
  18. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    JJAS and PKM for trade managers.
     
  19. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;cnkt5NZgg6w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnkt5NZgg6w[/video]
     
  20. BYE

    BYE Well-Known Member

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    Has a profanity or two.
    [video=youtube;1h7Z68JXOtY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h7Z68JXOtY[/video]
     

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