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Opposing PG Stat Stuff

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by jope, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. jope

    jope Well-Known Member

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    Okay...

    All season long, I have observed us failing to adequately defend opposing PGs on a regular basis. More often than not they seem like they can do whatever they want against our defense.


    So I was messing around with Excel, trying to learn some new formulas.

    So I decided to look at the impact the opposing PGs (starting and backup) have had on our team all season, and ran some calculations on opposing PG performance, and our overall success.


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    Now, as a reference

    The 2 Opposing PG's (primary + backup) average 21.8 ppg on 46.08%

    Even including earl (which i only looked at 2 PGs from other teams), the 3 of our main pgs have combined to average 18ppg on 36.1% shooting



    Take from it what you will, but this (i feel) just validates with numbers, the overall dilemma we are in, and how big of an impact a PG (especially one who can defend adequately) has on winning for this team.
     
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  2. orangello

    orangello Well-Known Member

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    I will rep as soon as I can.
     
  3. franklin

    franklin Well-Known Member

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    Corbin is an idiot. He never puts Jeremy Evans on opposing point guards when it's soooo obvious to the rest of us. Evans doesn't even have to guard them all he has to do is run the baseline taunting them to shoot. Then he flies out of nowhere and blocks three pointers with his elbow. They'll be forced to shoot half court shots every single time. Why is Corbin so damn dense and doesn't realize this?

    To be serious, yeah, Jazz need a point guard. Mo is only adequate if he's the fifth best player on the court.
     
  4. Weezur

    Weezur Well-Known Member

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    I think Locke said it today that Earl Watson is statistically the worst point gaurd in the league getting +15 minutes

    I mean Earl is so bad, that the D-League is preparing a cease and desist form for when Earl goes to the D-League when he's done with the NBA.
    Usually the D-League isn't this on top of things, but Earl's an exception.
     
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  5. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the digits.

    Like a MAC truck, everybody should have seen this coming.

    Aight, laterz, time for another game of solitaire.
     
  6. Hedda Gambler

    Hedda Gambler Active Member

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    It seems like you aren`t counting the minutes for the two opposing PGs - you`re just adding the percentages and dividing them by two?
     
  7. dipship31

    dipship31 Well-Known Member

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    Well done, I was looking at when the opposing team PG's score less than 20 and see you only have 2 losses in the category when we actually have 6 in that instance. Then the records add up to our current record. I remember we had a major problem guarding PG's last year, but I thought it had somewhat been corrected. Clearly it has not.
     
  8. dipship31

    dipship31 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that pretty much throws off that column. Game 23 against the Spurs TP went 8/18 and Patty Mills went 3/3 so the % should've been 52.38% instead of 72.2%.
     
  9. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I think our pg's numbers would be better if the jazz would just kick watson to the curb and play the big backcourt lineup (burks, foye) when tinsley is out
     
  10. jope

    jope Well-Known Member

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    Nope its not weighted. But a better weight would be accounting for the amount of shots compared to the percentage of completion, I don't think minutes really influences percentages much
     
  11. jope

    jope Well-Known Member

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    Ya, it started out as me trying to figure out some if then functions in excel and it evolved into that spread sheet. I was far too lazy to look up 40 box scores worth of shot totals.
     
  12. HeavenHarris

    HeavenHarris Banned

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    this is pretty cool bro. can u do the same thing for last year (with Harris)? i think it would give us some perspectivism.
     

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