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Our GSW 2013 Draft Pick

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by JayCamjazzfan, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. JayCamjazzfan

    JayCamjazzfan Member

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    Is losing its value. I keep waiting for the warriors to fall off so we can move up to 5th in the west, but it doesnt seem like that's going to happen and I'm pissed! has anybody actually watched any of their games?

    Are the warriors legit?
     
  2. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    Been discussed a lot here.

    Yeah, they don't seem like a team that's going to start just totally sucking.
    Remain pissed.

    I'm mad that tanking yielded them a very nice pick and didn't perpetuate a losing culture.
     
  3. mellow

    mellow Well-Known Member

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    They beat the heat, Brooklyn (twice) the Clippers, and Denver.

    Yes, the Jazz pick is going to suck and the lesson learned is that tanking works. But if you really want to be sick to your stomach, the tanking piece of crap Mark Jackson is probably going to be coach of the year. Disgusting.
     
  4. Stoked

    Stoked Modstapo Moderator

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    Yeah that is crap. The Tankers have moved up into the realm of the Lakers, Nuggets and Rockets for me.
     
  5. orangello

    orangello Well-Known Member

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    Whaaaaaaa? Tanking works?
     
  6. Stoked

    Stoked Modstapo Moderator

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    The Spurs seem to think so.
     
  7. candrew

    candrew Well-Known Member

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    It's a long season - I think GSW is far from being guaranteed a playoff spot considering their two best players are constantly injured.

    I look at it this way - if they sucked this year then Jackson would have just tanked down to a lower position again any way.
     
  8. Jeffrey32

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    I hope it oesn't happen this way, but it would be interesting if Utah and GSW are battling each other for the 8th playoff spot.
     
  9. Gas

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    Even worse news is they have played 13 road games and 9 home games. So thats just another reason to believe that the trend will continue. But like what Candy said, I think there is a chance they fall off due to injuries. Its a long season. We'll see. Its actually better for us if they think they are good then they fall off later and cant tank their way back into their pick like last year. They need hope at first.
     
  10. spycam1

    spycam1 Well-Known Member

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    It all depends on Curry's health.
     
  11. Hartsock

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    Wait till Curry gets hurt again. And Bogut, and prbably Lee. Then we will have them right where we want them.
     
  12. HeavenHarris

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    warriors are a good team momma there goes that team
     
  13. JayCamjazzfan

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    I was hoping for a good mid to late lotto pick to get the top pg prospect but I'm afraid the jazz and warriors might both slip out of the lottery
     
  14. HipHopAnonymous

    HipHopAnonymous Active Member

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    The Clippers tanked for years and years and it didn't help too much until they traded for CP3.
     
  15. Stoked

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    Are you sure?
     
  16. CitizenofCapua

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    How did they get Paul? And yes Griffin, Jordan, Bledsoe is not helping at all.
     
  17. Gas

    Gas Well-Known Member

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    Two types of tanking.

    1. Tanking one year at a time with only one pick each year, hoping you nail it each time.

    2. Tanking when you already have 4 great prospects, multiple upcoming picks, and nice veterans that you can trade for more picks, all the while increasing your chances ten fold that you can build a really good team because you have a lot of talent all at once, not just one maybe per year.

    Big difference. Number 2 is what jazzfanz pro tankers had in mind. All that plus you give your young guys plenty of burn.

    Oh well. Too late now. Its in the past.
     
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  18. JimLes

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    Very.

    The Clippers had some awesome stretches of draft stinkers.

    From '98 to '02, they drafted first, fourth, third, and second. Landing the Kandiman, Odom, Chadler, and Darius freaking Miles.

    Four top four picks in a row and it lead to what? More lottery. I won't even get into the core they could've had built in those 4 drafts.

    Then you have the 85-89 stretch. They picked third, fourth, first, and second. Almost identical to above, except they didn't have a first round pick in '86. That year, they would've had the number one pick, but they traded it for Kobe's dad 7 years ago.

    Anyway, they took Benoit Benjamin, Reggie Williams, Danny Manning, and Danny Ferry. I'll concede that Manning was a hell of a player when healthy, but the players they could've had? Could've drafted a core of Malone, Pippen, Mitch Richmond and Tim Hardaway. Their number 1 pick in 1986 turned out to be Brad Daugherty. These five guys were basically the 1992 All-NBA first team.

    Clippers are dumb. And I mean dumb. Not like other teams who occasionally make dumb moves, but like stick your wet fingers into a socket dumb.
     
  19. spycam1

    spycam1 Well-Known Member

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    I still think this could happen. Let's say we get the 14th pick from GSW (optimistic right now, but certainly within possibility considering how injury prone they are). Well, how many teams in the lottery actually need a PG? Even if there is a PG that is considered BPA, I can see plenty of teams passing on him to get a talented player at a position of need. Let's take a look at the current lottery standings and the chances they would take a PG.

    1. Washington - Wall
    2. Toronto - Lowry
    3. Cleveland - Irving
    4. New Orleans - Vasquez
    5. Detroit - Knight
    6. Phoenix - Dragic/Marshall
    7. Sacramento - Brooks/Evans/Fredette
    8. Charlotte - Walker
    9. Orlando - Nelson
    10. Lakers - Nash
    11. Portland - Lillard
    12. Houston - Lin
    13. Denver - Lawson

    I can only see a few teams here taking a PG in the lottery, especially since most of those teams who might (New Orleans, Toronto, Detroit) will likely be top-5 and there is no chance a PG will be taken that high, anyway. Orlando seems like the biggest threat to taking the best PG.

    We'll just have to hope Curry and company get injured and give us a pick at 13/14. If that happens, I think we have a reasonable shot to get the best PG, even if he's considered top 10 on most teams' boards.
     
  20. Gas

    Gas Well-Known Member

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    Nice work Spycam. I see you have been doing your dirty spy work. This is all a good point.


    At number 14 The Utah Jazz select Mark is Smart
     

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