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Playing Time post-deadline

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Stifle Tower, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Stifle Tower

    Stifle Tower Punch Bowl Re-Filler

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    Well, nothing happened...as most of us expected/feared.

    I don't expect changes in the starting lineup...that would be too much to ask. But does anyone think Jefferson and Millsap were getting huge mins to enhance their trade values?
    Now that the deadline has passed, my hope would be that K O'Lindsey has Corbin cut the mins for those two by about 5 each and give them to Favors and Kanter. Derrick needs to be averaging in the high 20's and Kanter at least 20 mins.

    As for the wings, let's hope Burks mins are safe. Watson needs to be sent to the bench with Burks playing point behind Tinsley until Mo comes back.
     
  2. Zulu

    Zulu Well-Known Member

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    Not gonna happen.... main reason we didn't trade was how good the team is right now and the FO will just tell Ty keep doing what your doing.
     
  3. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE PROUD SUPPORTER Moderator

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    As usual Ty will play what gives us the best chance of winning.

    Minutes will be based on "Match ups"
     
  4. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member

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    I think Millsap's minutes come down a bit, so that he and Favors are in the 26 - 30-min range. I think Al gives up a couple extra minutes per night for Kanter. If Burks keeps playing well, he'll get a few of Foye's minutes.

    Marvin Williams may continue to start just for the sake of consistency, but his minutes haven't been that high lately anyway.
     
  5. Stoked

    Stoked Modstapo Moderator

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    Unless your name is Kanter. I'd love to have Ty sit down and steriaght up tell us what he is, or is not, seeing. Why does he do what he does? None of this bullcrap answers for reporters. Real, honest stuff.
     
  6. dipship31

    dipship31 Well-Known Member

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    I expect ZERO changes in PT.
     
  7. spycam1

    spycam1 Well-Known Member

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    There will be no change in the minutes for the bigs.

    The biggest change I can see happening is Burks continuing to get the amount he's been getting recently.
     
  8. Jazz_junkie

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    Were stuck with this same dumb mediocrity till next year it looks like.
     
  9. pickledXgrandma

    pickledXgrandma Well-Known Member

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    If anything happens, Al and Milsap get MORE minutes.
     
  10. dipship31

    dipship31 Well-Known Member

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    You mean that as a change in his minutes going down right? I'm sure once Mo comes back they go down.
     
  11. themanknownassting

    themanknownassting Well-Known Member

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    IMHO, I believe the starters will actually start getting more minutes for the playoff push. I hope I am wrong, but this is how this organization has been ran for years.
     
  12. dipship31

    dipship31 Well-Known Member

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    This also
     
  13. green

    green Well-Known Member

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    Ding ding. It is playoff push time. Time to shorten the bench. I fully expect Kanter and Burks' minutes to drop drastically now.
     
  14. orangello

    orangello Well-Known Member

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    This
     
  15. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor

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    All the people that said the vets were playing so much because they were being "showcased" for a trade are going to look pretty stupid now that there can be no trades and the vets continue to get the minutes.
     
  16. Lattimer

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    Yup lol. Wasnt it Franklin that said we couldn't reduce Al or Paul's minutes because we needed to keep their value up?

    I said they have no value and teams will not give anything we want for them. They laughed.

    I get the last laugh since we now see that they have neutral value. Hardyharhar

    As far as playing time it's all dependent on injuries. As long as Mo is out Burks will see some time. Once he's back it's DNPs. Favs and Kanter keep rotting as well while the players who won't be here NExt year will get the majority of minutes. I'm stoked.
     
  17. jope

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    Isn't that what we were all saying last year?
     
  18. Stifle Tower

    Stifle Tower Punch Bowl Re-Filler

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    Just because there was no trade doesn't mean there was no value.
    Based on the rumors, I'll bet the Spurs initially offered Splitter, Mills and Jackson for Jefferson. The Jazz probably said that wasn't enough and countered by asking that Leonard be the centerpiece. Then the Spurs may have come back and wanted Burks or Hayward thown in. Kind of makes sense due to Jefferson, Splitter and Jackson being 30 game rentals. Neither team wanted to be left with nothing to show. I'm sure a similar scenario unfolded with the Clippers. Naturally, KOC would have just stood his ground and told those teams if they changed their minds before the deadline, he'd take their call; otheriwse, he wasn't budging.

    And numerous trades could have been had the Jazz been willing to take on multi-year contracts for mid-level players. The key is we already HAVE those types of guys in Mo, Foye, Marvin Williams, etc. If we make a deal or acquire a FA, it better be a starter or a quality 6th-man type: Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burks and likely Jefferson OR Millsap with Mo Williams and TBD at the point. There's a core of 7 and you can add Foye and Carroll to that group as complementary players. I'm not including Marvin because he'll be gone after next season. Carroll has outplayed him and the emergence of Burks will put Hayward at SF for longer strectches. If an acquisiton is made, that player should be at least as good as the Core-7 listed. Ideally, better than several of them. Obviously, PG remains a key concern moving ahead. But that's the direction the franchise needs to take to step it up to the next level.
     
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  19. NAOS

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    There's no reason to play Al and Paul as much unless they are convinced they are indispensable to our "success". They might think that.
     
  20. Nate505

    Nate505 Modstapo Lite Moderator

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    Hope everything you say happens, fear none of it will.

    Though I at least hope Burks keeps his spot in the rotation. Looks like Carroll will be the odd man out, which is totally unfair to him since he's earned PT over Marv, but that's how Ty rolls.
     

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