Rank the Jazz's rivals in the Western Conference

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  1. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Looking at how teams' rosters are shaking out, here are the Jazz's rivals in the WC. How do you think the Jazz stack up against these teams? I'll hold my comments for now..

    Utah Jazz Starters:
    1 Mike Conley
    2 Donovan Mitchell
    3 Bojan Bogdanovic
    4 Jeff Green
    5 Rudy Gobert

    Bench:

    6 Emanuel Mudiay
    7 Dante Exum
    8 Joe Ingles
    9 Royce O'Neale
    10 Ed Davis

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    LA Lakers Starters:
    1 Avery Bradley
    2 Danny Green
    3 Lebron James
    4 Anthony Davis
    5 Javale McGee

    Bench:
    6 Rajon Rondo
    7 Alex Caruso
    8 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    9 Kyle Kuzma
    10 Dwight Howard

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    LA Clippers Starters:

    1 Patrick Beverly
    2 Landry Shamet
    3 Paul George
    4 Kawhi Leonard
    5 Ivica Zubac

    Bench:

    6 Lou Williams
    7 Rodney McGruder
    8 Maurice Harkless
    9 Jamychal Green
    10 Montrezl Harrell

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    Houston Rockets Starters:

    1 Russell Westbrook
    2 James Harden
    3 Daniel House Jr.
    4 PJ Tucker
    5 Clint Capella

    Bench:

    6 Austin Rivers
    7 Eric Gordon
    8 Gerald Green
    9 Thabo Sefalosha
    10 Nene

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    Denver Nuggets Starters:

    1 Jamal Murray
    2 Gary Harris
    3 Will Barton
    4 Paul Millsap
    5 Nikola Jokic

    Bench:
    6
    Monte Morris
    7 Malik Beasley
    8 Torrey Craig
    9 Jerami Grant
    10 Mason Plumlee




     
  2. Shad

    Shad Well-Known Member

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    I think the Jazz are better than all of those except maybe the Clippers
     
  3. prodigy

    prodigy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah in this case id give the edge to the jazz for starting 5. There is a drop off from Clippers top 2 to their 3rd best player. I think Utah's top 4 is as good as anyone's top 4. But would give the Clipps the edge for bench.
     
  4. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    The Lakers rely mostly on Lebron to run and create their offense. It looks like they'll stagger Lebron and AD to make sure that one of them is on the floor at nearly all times. They don't have much scoring off the bench. Other than Lebron and Caruso, they lack players who can consistently penetrate off the dribble. They want to play fast and get downhill as a team if they can. Lebron and Davis breaking together are nearly impossible to stop. Otherwise, they're waiting for Lebron and Rondo to set guys up in the half court, or they'll run a Lebron/Davis screen and roll. They need someone to step up as a third scorer. Ideally, they'd have a scoring guard whom Lebron can dish to as a release valve. Someone like CJ McCollum would be perfect for them. They're hoping Kuzma will step up.

    The Lakers look to be a mediocre 3-pt shooting team. That limits their offensive spacing and likely keeps them from being elite. I see the Lakers as a 4 or 5 seed, with a win total in the 47-50 range, due to Lebron and Davis likely missing some time. I’d like to see the Clippers and Lakers meet in an early round of the playoffs (either a 4/5 or 3/6 matchup) so that one eliminates the other. They deserve each other.

    LA Lakers Starters:
    1 Avery Bradley
    2 Danny Green
    3 Lebron James
    4 Anthony Davis
    5 Javale McGee

    Bench
    6 Rajon Rondo
    7 Alex Caruso
    8 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    9 Kyle Kuzma
    10 Dwight Howard
     
  5. Engorged On Unborn Gore

    Engorged On Unborn Gore Well-Known Member

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    Some of our bench players like Mudiay and Exum need to prove that they can stay healthy/be relied upon, but I think our top 8 players are right there with the Clippers top 8.

    The Jazz, if healthy, beats every other team on paper.

    Mike Conley
    Donovan Mitchell
    Bojan Bogdonovich
    Joe Ingles
    Rudy Gobert
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    Royce O'neale
    Ed Davis
    Jeff Green
     
  6. MVP

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    I think both Jazz and Clippers are tier 1 contenders, Nuggets, Rockets and GSW tier 2... Lakers, Blazers, Spurs and the rest are pretenders.
     
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  7. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Mudiay could become an important player during the playoffs, since he's one of the few guys the Jazz have who can score in isolation. This was a problem for the Jazz against the Rockets' switching defense. Mitchell can take his defender. Royce actually showed that he could drive and score off the dribble. Otherwise, Mudiay and Exum are guys who can break the paint and create scoring opportunities on their own. I'm curious to see what Mudiay can do on a good team.
     
  8. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    If Mudiay becomes an important player to our title hopes something has gone either really right or really wrong.
     
  9. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    The Nuggets are a good team, but they really rely on Jokic to create their offense. He lumbers down the center of the lane like an elephant, picking up defenders as he goes, and then sends passes to open shooters. The Nuggets struggle with the Jazz because Gobert can guard him one-on-one. Then our defenders stay home on their shooters. Unless the Nuggets' guards are on fire shooting the ball, I think the Jazz would beat them in a series.

    Favors did a good job guarding Millsap last year. We're going to need someone to step up and do that. Probably that assignment will go to Royce.
     
  10. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    If everyone is 100% healthy and we are starting a playoff series... I think Clips, Houston, Lakers, GSW are scary. I think they are all beatable. They all have a player that could absolutely dominate a series.
     
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  11. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Not afraid of GSW at all. Any of those other teams can beat anyone on any given night. May be harder for Houston over the course of a series, though.
     
  12. Jazzmix

    Jazzmix Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how Houston will do. I think Chris Paul's midrange was more dangerous against us than Westbrook's game. Clips and Lakers will be tough in playoffs, I am not afraid of Nuggets and I don't believe that Klay will be 100 percent in shape in May (I think GSW will struggle to make playoffs).
     
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  13. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    The only people we have to fear are the Clippers and Lakers in the post season. Like whoever said, hopefully they matchup in the first round.
     
  14. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    I think Houston is a 4-6 seed. They're still very dependent upon Harden, which makes them higher variance.
     
  15. Jazz4ever

    Jazz4ever Well-Known Member

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    I have a really hard time ranking the top 6 this year out west. 1-5 are pretty interchangeable. On paper Paul is a better fit in Houston than Westbrook, but that may be negated by the fact Westbrook is 3-4 years younger.

    1. LA C
    2. Utah
    3. LA L
    4. Denver
    5. Houston
    6. GS
     
  16. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    If Klay is healthy that is core of the team that has been to the finals for how many straight years? I am not afraid of them currently because I don’t think they are or will be healthy. If we got them in the first round and they were healthy I’d be not happy.

    I also think Russell gets moved for the depth pieces they need at some point... if they are trending the right way.

    They have the most variance of any team to me... could see them out of the playoffs or in the conference finals and wouldn’t be surprised.
     
  17. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    1. Russell sucks.
    2. Health is a huge question mark for them.
    3. I believe them being amazing pre-Durant was due to a number of coalescing factors. A lot of those factors are gone. All the role players are gone. Is Green going to be what Green was? Are they all motivated and as hungry? Could argue they are post-Durant, but this is a different team. Yeah, Steph is amazing. But it's not one guy. I don't see this team as lethal on any level. With or without Klay.
     
  18. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    All valid criticisms. I think they can get something for Russell if they think they can compete for a title. Even if he sucks for them, which he likely will, I think teams will explain it as a bad fit and still consider him an All Star*

    Steph, Klay, Green are so good I’m not gonna bury them yet. Supporting cast is weak AF but could be bolstered mid-season.
     
  19. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Ideally, the seeding would come out like this:

    1) Utah
    2) Clippers
    3) Rockets
    4) Nuggets
    5) Blazers
    6) Lakers
    7) Warriors
    8) Spurs

    Jazz would beat the Spurs in the first round, beat the Nuggets or Blazers in the second round, and face a beat up Clippers or Rockets team in the WCF.
     
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  20. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Make it happen.
     

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