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Shams: Utah and Lauri expected to agree to long term deal

It behooves everyone involved (teams, players, agents, media) to report the contract as generously as possible. The dollar amount would be closer to $250M if Lauri got everything possible, I'm guessing that Shams would have reported it as "close to $250M" or whatever if that was the case.

Lauri can take less money by:

1) Taking less than the maximum amount possible for next season, which would give us more cap space this summer but it would need to be used before the season.

2) Taking the maximum amount of money this year, but taking less money in future years than maximum.

I'm guessing we're going option 2, and that's great for us. I'm sure I'll get killed for this, but Lauri on a full max has some small non-zero chance of that contract not looking pretty. These third contracts are not the fun maxes., some of these contracts signed have gone haywire. I'm not expecting Lauri's to go that direction, but it looks like the Jazz have put in good work to somewhat protect themselves from that.
 
Back of napkin math:

$42.2 M for this season, this means $160M over the following four seasons to get "upwards of $200M".

Let's just assume it's a flat deal at $40M, but in theory it can be even less with descending. I have heard that the hoop collective guys speculated it would be descending, but haven't listed to their podcast myself. If it's a flat $40M each year, that would be $17M less than his maximum amount in year 5. $17M would be about 8% of the cap and his $40M yearly salary would be less than 20% of the cap in year 5, so that's a big deal.
 
KqWIN said:
Back of napkin math:

$42.2 M for this season, this means $160M over the following four seasons to get "upwards of $200M".

Let's just assume it's a flat deal at $40M, but in theory it can be even less with descending. I have heard that the hoop collective guys speculated it would be descending, but haven't listed to their podcast myself. If it's a flat $40M each year, that would be $17M less than his maximum amount in year 5. $17M would be about 8% of the cap and his $40M yearly salary would be less than 20% of the cap in year 5, so that's a big deal.
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An article earlier today said the max that we can give him over the following 4 seasons is around $188mil. I would expect it to be pretty close to that number. If I'm the jazz though I would try and make it a descending contract which is a benefit to Lauri and the jazz going forward. Lauri gets more of his money faster to invest and we end up in a better situation salary cap wise in a few years when we have to start extending some of our young guys.
 
sip said:
An article earlier today said the max that we can give him over the following 4 seasons is around $188mil. I would expect it to be pretty close to that number. If I'm the jazz though I would try and make it a descending contract which is a benefit to Lauri and the jazz going forward. Lauri gets more of his money faster to invest and we end up in a better situation salary cap wise in a few years when we have to start extending some of our young guys.
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Shams said 5 years $200M, so he's including this season. His maximum number this year would be $42.2....maybe the full maximum the following 4 years but it seems as though the reporting is pegging him at something less. It would be really great for the Jazz to get Lauri on some kind of flat or descending deal and like you said, it's better for Lauri as well to get as much as possible upfront.

As much as I love Lauri, I'm not sure he's a no brainer 30%+ full max kind of player. I feel like that may be reserved to truly elite superstar players in this new CBA. It's fine if he's 30% now, but it be amazing if it trickles down to 20% as the years go on.
 
It starts to sound I was right when I long time ago told here how Lauri might not go hard for the absolute max deal, as a family man. His kids are in school age and he wants to win on Jazz with his special bond with the coach too... so makes much sense if he's ok with a slight discount just to make sure he won't have to start packing mid-season, and how it might help the team building going forwards.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
It starts to sound I was right when I long time ago told here how Lauri might not go hard for the absolute max deal, as a family man. His kids are in school age and he wants to win on Jazz with his special bond with the coach too... so makes much sense if he's ok with a slight discount just to make sure he won't have to start packing mid-season, and how it might help the team building going forwards.
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Maybe you are right but I am not sure any team is giving him the max. He is a great player and I am glad he is sticking around but not who I would want to blow the max on.
 
jumpin bean said:
We have a 27 year old All Star that wants to be in Utah. That is something to relish and celebrate, tank or not.
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He's a very solid foundational piece to build around. The Warriors interest alone shows that he is a potential champion caliber piece. My only concern is that it's a year too early as this year's team needs to tank but there's not much to do about that.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Ok. Happy to have Lauri back. But Lauri needs to get off the winning train for 1 season. Not half a season but a full season. We need blue chip talent to take us to the top.

No more halfers. We need to get hard on tankin.
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We can’t do that though, it’ll upset the likes of @MT Steve too much.

Winning culture and all that.. lol
 
It will be interesting to see the details after they come out. Is it 200M new money or 200M total money including his renegotiated 2024-25 salary of 18M?

If its the latter then its actually a massive bargain and less than what Lauri likely could have gotten had he waited until Free Agency. Spurs were definitely gonna max him there even if we didnt.

If its all new money then its about the same as what he would have gotten, but we can still take 24M from the 4 extensions years and bring it into this year which means the backend of the deal will look pretty friendly (last year around 15M below what it would have been with 8% raises).
 
Nate505 said:
Fantastic. I can't remember the last all star player who wanted to stay here, but it's refreshing to see.
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Rudy Gobert. You know, tall guy, all world defender. He wanted to stay here.
 
HermanG said:
It will be interesting to see the details after they come out. Is it 200M new money or 200M total money including his renegotiated 2024-25 salary of 18M?

If its the latter then its actually a massive bargain and less than what Lauri likely could have gotten had he waited until Free Agency. Spurs were definitely gonna max him there even if we didnt.

If its all new money then its about the same as what he would have gotten, but we can still take 24M from the 4 extensions years and bring it into this year which means the backend of the deal will look pretty friendly (last year around 15M below what it would have been with 8% raises).
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I would guess that it is 200mil in new money plus the 18mil from his old contract.
 
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